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    #31
    Jr. has made a lot of mistakes: not training enough or doing it a his "place" and own terms, being arrested for DUI few days before a fight, using Cannabis during a camp, missing weight, etc. and he still could be relevant if he is willing to dedicate to boxing like many other fighters do. I am certain that if he would train really hard he probably would KO Sergio Mtz in a rematch since Jr. was able to drop Sergio even with his poor training and Sergio appeared having lost another step against Murray. So, I think that Martinez not only believes that Chavez Jr does not deserve a second chance but also knows that Chavez could hurt him if Jr had an adequate preparation so it would be better to avoid him.

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      #32
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      How can anyone pick Chavez jr to win in a rematch? What did he do in the first fight other than KD Sergio in the last round in which Sergio got up and ****** out till the bell? I'm just curious to know what did people see in Chavez Jr to make them believe that he has a shot at beating Martinez in a rematch? I think Martinez last fight only showed that he needed more rest because of his knee surgery. Chavez Jr is a bum.
      I think Jr was a lil in awe of Martinez. I also think he showed him too much respect in the first fight. He knows he can get to and hurt Martinez now. Plus, I have seen some decline in Serg. A more confident Jr and deminished version of Martinez makes it a real fight, IMO.

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        #33
        He doesn't deserve the rematch. It's not like he could make 160 anyways. He should fight at 168-175 and fight people his own size. Andre Ward got stripped of his Wbc title because they needed to get a bum crappy enough for Jr to beat so they could gift that title to the bum and for Jr to beat him for it. Hopefully Jr gets that title so Ward gives him a boxing lesson worse than the one Floyd gave to Canelo. Because at least Canelo has decent speed, good boxing skills, but most importantly : discipline and respect for the sport. Jr lazy ass pisses me off. if he had conditioned well for the vera fight, he would've done what he was supposed to do : knock him out or at least REALLY win the fight. People talk about how Floyd runs, what about chavez Jr? He looked like frankenstein, all green and exhausted ... smh

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          #34
          Originally posted by Young Money View Post
          Very silly response.
          I don't see how. Everyone is crying about how Jr "disrespects" his opponents. Yet his opponents gladly accept a pay increase and play ball. Personally, I don't have a price tag on my self respect. So that mindset leads me to believe that if these guys truly are as disrespected as fans claim they are. They need to put their foot down and say I ain't fighting.

          BTW, for all the crying that went on with Jr-Vera. Jr weighed in at 172 and Vera weighed in at 171. So I really don't understand people claiming Jr disrespected this or that when his opponent basically weighed the same damn thing.

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            #35
            Originally posted by hitking View Post
            I don't see how. Everyone is crying about how Jr "disrespects" his opponents. Yet his opponents gladly accept a pay increase and play ball. Personally, I don't have a price tag on my self respect. So that mindset leads me to believe that if these guys truly are as disrespected as fans claim they are. They need to put their foot down and say I ain't fighting.

            BTW, for all the crying that went on with Jr-Vera. Jr weighed in at 172 and Vera weighed in at 171. So I really don't understand people claiming Jr disrespected this or that when his opponent basically weighed the same damn thing.
            LOL you have a very narrow view of the world.

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              #36
              Originally posted by cabalas View Post
              Jr. has made a lot of mistakes: not training enough or doing it a his "place" and own terms, being arrested for DUI few days before a fight, using Cannabis during a camp, missing weight, etc. and he still could be relevant if he is willing to dedicate to boxing like many other fighters do. I am certain that if he would train really hard he probably would KO Sergio Mtz in a rematch since Jr. was able to drop Sergio even with his poor training and Sergio appeared having lost another step against Murray. So, I think that Martinez not only believes that Chavez Jr does not deserve a second chance but also knows that Chavez could hurt him if Jr had an adequate preparation so it would be better to avoid him.
              This is B.S. Martinez been saying before the Murray fight that he wasn't too thrilled with giving Chavez Jr a rematch because he doesn't dedicate himself to the sport. Even before they fought he said that. You guys really down play Martinez even after the schooling he gave Chavez Jr. Dude got dropped, got back up and went toe to toe with Chavez Jr. How is this a sign that he is afraid of getting hurt by a kid who can't beat Brain Vera without controversy? Nonsense.

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                #37
                Originally posted by hitking View Post
                I think Jr was a lil in awe of Martinez. I also think he showed him too much respect in the first fight. He knows he can get to and hurt Martinez now. Plus, I have seen some decline in Serg. A more confident Jr and deminished version of Martinez makes it a real fight, IMO.
                Then I have no other choice but to not take your opinions serious because Sergio Martinez would kick Chavez Jr ass anytime of the day in any form. And you sound silly because Jr will never be disciplined or serious enough to beat any real opponent.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hitking View Post
                  I don't see how. Everyone is crying about how Jr "disrespects" his opponents. Yet his opponents gladly accept a pay increase and play ball. Personally, I don't have a price tag on my self respect. So that mindset leads me to believe that if these guys truly are as disrespected as fans claim they are. They need to put their foot down and say I ain't fighting.

                  BTW, for all the crying that went on with Jr-Vera. Jr weighed in at 172 and Vera weighed in at 171. So I really don't understand people claiming Jr disrespected this or that when his opponent basically weighed the same damn thing.
                  Jr ballooned after the weigh in. So much so that he refused to weighed fight night by HBO. He easily outweighed Vera on fight night by 15-20 lbs

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hitking View Post
                    You thought Vera was robbed?
                    He wasn't? I mean everyone including their mothers say that Brian Vera was robbed in that fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      He wasn't? I mean everyone including their mothers say that Brian Vera was robbed in that fight.
                      Vera beat the snot out of Chumpedz. Dude got outlanded and busted up

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