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    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    Floyd was so desperate not to fight him, he went on vacation.

    Taller, longer reach, very high work rate, great stamina, and a seemingly solid chin.

    Floyd was going near that.
    Try that on somebody that wasn't watching boxing at that time because I was, after Paul Williams defeated Margrito...NOBODY was calling for Mayweather vs Williams not even HBO

    not only that but Williams did not help himself much to get a opportunity at Mayweather when he lost his very next fight against Quintana

    Pull are pulling Williams out of their a$$ and adding him on to the "Mayweather Ducked Him" list out of desperation and they are reaching with that one big time
    Last edited by sicko; 10-03-2013, 01:23 PM.

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      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
      This thread is not about Pacquiao, it is about Mayweather's avoidance of the best opposition.
      Pac is now remembered for snoozing during a fight. We won't remember the wars with old Morales or past it Barerra. Marquez knocked the legacy out of Pac, lmao. Rios is about to put an end to your misery.

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        Originally posted by sicko View Post
        Try that on somebody that wasn't watching boxing at that time because I was, after Paul Williams defeated Margrito...NOBODY was calling for Mayweather vs Williams not even HBO

        not only that but Williams did not help himself much to get a opportunity at Mayweather when he lost his very next fight against Quintana
        I was calling for the fight.

        And I wasn't the only one.

        I was definitely not calling for the Carlos Baldomir fight.

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          Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          I disagree, and no respected author would ever write such a thing.
          a writers job is to get people to read his/her work. an article on manny isn't particularly interesting nor will it attract many readers.

          But criticize floyd and you'll surely get your article read. DOesn't mean the writer or article is credible. Its like reading about aliens in the naional enquirer-lie and stretch the truth and the idiots will flock to it.

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            Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View Post
            Pac is now remembered for snoozing during a fight. We won't remember the wars with old Morales or past it Barerra. Marquez knocked the legacy out of Pac, lmao. Rios is about to put an end to your misery.
            If you want to talk about Pacquiao fine, make and thread and go and do it.

            This thread is about Mayweather's avoidance of the best fighters available.

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              All kidding aside, there is some truth in the article. that truth is that there are fights Mayweather didn't have that would've liked. I wanted to see him in with Margarito, Williams and especially Pacquiao. As a boxing fan, it's the kind of stuff you want to see. Where I differ with the article and plenty of people on here is that Mayweather's to blame each and every time.

              Bob Arum himself stated exactly why the fights with Margarito and Cotto didn't happen when we wanted them to. It was over money. Mayweather was making demands he wasn't prepared to meet. He underestimated Mayweather's worth and what a fight against De La Hoya would gross. Granted, Arum had no prior proof of Mayweather's earning potential, but he flatly refused to take the gamble. Like Oscar did before, Mayweather bet on himself, and moved on- pretty acrimoniously.

              The fights with Hatton and Oscar did happen (and at the time, they were fights the world wanted, don't try to deny it). Mayweather's retirement. Was it a master plan of avoidance? that's one school of thought. Like God's existence, it can't be proved or disproved. However, I remember the feeling at the time that there wasn't much left for Mayweather to do after 13 years in the business and more in amateur competition. I've never prepared for ONE pro fight, let alone dedicate my whole youth and a big portion of my adult life to pro fights, have you? Training, dieting, travelling and fighting. When you add injuries (like broken hands), to it, I have no idea what toll that takes. Again, do you? Only a fighter knows when they need time to heal physically and mentally. Some don't get the chance because a promoter always has money to make. So a break can be forced on them by their body breaking down or by getting badly hurt (by brutal KO amongst other things). Maybe Mayweather knew he could only keep fighting if he gave himself time to heal physically and mentally? Too much of a coincidence for some, I'm sure. It worked out for him but we, as fans missed out on fights we wanted.

              Lastly, as I stated before, I'm happy to accept the fact that Mayweather hasn't faced everyone he could have and he can be held accountable in some ways. But to laud him, and not level the same criticism at Pacquiao is absurd. Pacquiao's run from Diaz onward is as full of as many holes and includes a blatant duck of Shane Mosley. Yet fights against the likes of Barrera, Morales and Marquez buys him passes that fights against Hernandez, Corrales and Castillo can't buy Mayweather. Pacquiao has taken fights for money incentive, has looked to get advantages too (catchweights) and even "waited for opponents to get old" or even older (Mosley). Yet because he was marketed as the "anti-Mayweather" this is overlooked.

              I still maintain that the reason Pacquiao isn't the subject of such articles is because people have no need to make him seen fallible because it's already been done in the ring, whereas with Mayweather it hasn't and doesn't look likely (south of 160lbs anyway). Trying to make out that he's NEVER fought anyone who could beat him is much easier than admitting just how good he is.

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                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                a writers job is to get people to read his/her work. an article on manny isn't particularly interesting nor will it attract many readers.

                But criticize floyd and you'll surely get your article read. DOesn't mean the writer or article is credible. Its like reading about aliens in the naional enquirer-lie and stretch the truth and the idiots will flock to it.
                Hauser ain't a tabloid journalist, he is respected and has integrity in his profession.

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                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  I was calling for the fight.

                  And I wasn't the only one.

                  I was definitely not calling for the Carlos Baldomir fight.
                  HAHAHA YEAH...OK!

                  Paul Williams was suppose to be Mayweather's Mandatory, HBO was calling for Baldomir vs Mayweather instead, again do your homework go watch some old clips and listen during the build up of Zab vs Mayweather and how Merchant and Lampley questioned Mayweather for fighting Zab instead of fighting the guy that Defeated Zab (Baldomir)

                  Mayweather was working on fighting Cory Spinks to help prepare him for the Oscar De La Hoya fight but yes back then you had people accusing him of "Ducking Baldomir" and "Being Afraid Of Baldomir" then he took the fight and when Mayweather put on a CLINIC against Baldomir then is when HBO started being extremely negative towards Mayweather and his style
                  Last edited by sicko; 10-03-2013, 01:32 PM.

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                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    I disagree, and no respected author would ever write such a thing.
                    you dont have to agree with it because it all based on opinion and even this article is his opinion where some agree and some disagree. When floyd and pac retire they will go down as the best of this era and will be first ballot hall of fame.

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                      Originally posted by sicko View Post
                      HAHAHA YEAH...OK!

                      Baldomir was a mandatory, also HBO was calling for it, again do your homework go watch some old clips and listen during the build up of Zab vs Mayweather and how Merchant and Lampley questioned Mayweather for fighting Zab instead of fighting the guy that Defeated Zab (Baldomir)

                      Mayweather was working on fighting Cory Spinks to help prepare him for the Oscar De La Hoya fight but yes back then you had people accusing him of "Ducking Baldomir" and "Being Afraid Of Baldomir" then he took the fight and when Mayweather put on a CLINIC against Baldomir then is when HBO started being extremely negative towards Mayweather and his style

                      LOL Baldomir a mandatory.

                      I'm going to let you work out why that one is so wrong.

                      Floyd avoided Margarito, but then again, so did Judah and so did Spinks, Marg was number 1 challenge for years but they all avoided him.

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