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    Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
    Marg at 150 > Marg at 147, that's just common sense

    Again, Mosley was a crap win for Pac, I admit, his standards are very high. One year later he became SWW champ Canelo's best win.
    Manny fought margs at 151. Margs was 1-1-1 above 147. the facts don't support your post.

    Canelo didn't fight shane at 147 so it doesn't matter.

    I'm just glad JMM is putting manny in his place and making him beg. I hope he makes him sign to PDP-piss drnker promotions-in order to get a 5th fight.

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      Originally posted by GRboxing View Post
      Shot Marg would have stood very little chance. Prime Marg sure but no. And Clottey lmao who has never won an important fight in his life?

      What do Ortiz and Guerrero even have to do with this?
      Guerrero was #3 ranked, Ortiz #2 more recently. You're saying welter was weak when Pac went up. It couldn't have been that weak if almost everyone has Clottey, Marg, Cotto destroying these high ranked welters.

      Remember Clottey making Zab quit quick like? And now many years later, a much more used up Judah is putting a hurting on JWW Champ and Mayweather candidate Garcia.

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        jmm KNOWS that he cant replicate that KO. i think he should retire, because the more he fights others not named pac, just makes him look like he is avoiding him and dont want to risk pac getting revenge.

        funny thing how jmm calls out pac for putting out bait, but for YEARS jmm kept baiting pac to give him chances (jmm was the biggest sore loser).... reminds me of the guy who keeps losing in a friendly game of poker, and when he finally wins big, he cashes out and goes home. LOL.

        KOs happen... and honestly, jmm & pac are so closely matched, that pac winning the 5th is highly possible.

        IMO, jmm SHOULDVE retired after the KO... nothing will top that

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          Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
          Guerrero was #3 ranked, Ortiz #2 more recently. You're saying welter was weak when Pac went up. It couldn't have been that weak if almost everyone has Clottey, Marg, Cotto destroying these high ranked welters.

          Remember Clottey making Zab quit quick like? And now many years later, a much more used up Judah is putting a hurting on JWW Champ and Mayweather candidate Garcia.
          Yes but I'm not big upping Guerrero or Ortiz as anything unprecedented like you are with those other nobodies.

          Get Manny's nuts out of your mouth my god. Judah!?! jesus. The welterweight division sucks, deal with it. The guy Mayweather whitewashed 12-0 could be ranked #2 for crying outloud

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            Originally posted by GRboxing View Post
            Yes but I'm not big upping Guerrero or Ortiz as anything unprecedented like you are with those other nobodies.

            Get Manny's nuts out of your mouth my god. Judah!?! jesus. The welterweight division sucks, deal with it. The guy Mayweather whitewashed 12-0 could be ranked #2 for crying outloud
            You don't have to tell me, the guy whitewashed by Salido and exposed by Gmaliel Diaz was just ranked #3 and headlined a PPV (a major bomb, to be fair)

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              JMM doesn't owe Pac a rematch imo. The "Pac kept giving him rematches" argument is very unconvincing.

              Their first fight was a draw, so the second fight wasn't anything Pac "gave" JMM (not to mention back then he was far from being the cash cow he went on to become). As for the third fight... there is a difference between giving someone a rematch and fighting him again four years later when you think it's your best option. Same with the fourth bout. It had the best risk/reward ratio for Pac at the time. He didn't take it out of generosity to JMM.

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                Originally posted by Black Barty View Post
                JMM doesn't owe Pac a rematch imo. The "Pac kept giving him rematches" argument is very unconvincing.

                Their first fight was a draw, so the second fight wasn't anything Pac "gave" JMM (not to mention back then he was far from being the cash cow he went on to become). As for the third fight... there is a difference between giving someone a rematch and fighting him again four years later when you think it's your best option. Same with the fourth bout. It had the best risk/reward ratio for Pac at the time. He didn't take it out of generosity to JMM.
                This is true. forget about debt or honor: When do you see fighters passing on 2x their career payday, in the name of memories? Now add an opponent you got all figured out.

                Seems like a win win. Make big time money after being stiffed all your career, and create some more memories.

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                  Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  This is true. forget about debt or honor: When do you see fighters passing on 2x their career payday, in the name of memories? Now add an opponent you got all figured out.

                  Seems like a win win. Make big time money after being stiffed all your career, and create some more memories.
                  When they choose legacy over money.

                  Pac doing enough begging he doesnt need you kid

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                    JMM Knows He Was On His Way To A Painful Loss When He Got His Hail Mary KO!

                    Pac fans not having a hard time with the loss at all. Having a hard time with JMM become a weasel in Boxing, takes his candy and runs to hide. Pac didn't need to give JMM any more than one or two fights. He gave Marquez 4, made JMM a very wealthy fighter. Marquez can't stomach giving Pacquiao ONE rematch, not ONE. He begged, and begged for fight after fight with Manny. Pacquiao man'd up and obliged no matter what the previous outcome was. There were plenty of options each time for Pacquiao other than Marquez. Now Marquez wants to run in the house and stand next to his mom, and smile "you can't touch me"... just very juvenile like a bratty little kid. I've lost a lot of respect for Marquez, he ducked Erik Morales his entire career, even as recent as a year ago, when Arum offered Marquez, Morales at Texas Stadium for a July date PRIOR to the last Pacquiao fight... JMM declined. Back when Morales and Marquez trained out of the same gym, Morales must have routinely gotten the best out of Marquez, hence why he ducked Morales his entire career. Should have seen the "weasel" in JMM then. Gutless... don't be surprised if "what goes around" doesn't happen to JMM in this Bradley fight coming up.... although I too would be surprised because Bradley is just a weak link... but Vegas already screwed another for Bradley to keep his hand delivered belt.

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                      Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                      You don't have to tell me, the guy whitewashed by Salido and exposed by Gmaliel Diaz was just ranked #3 and headlined a PPV (a major bomb, to be fair)
                      Exactly. just like Clottey and Margawho headlining...oh and Bradley

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