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    Originally posted by nathan_nall View Post
    Well, its actually pretty basic arithmetic. If you've ever put four quarters together to make a dollar, you should have a pretty strong grasp on the concept.

    But I work with 4 and 5 year olds at a treatment center so it's no big deal to explain it. You see, in ever dollar, there is one hundred cents. Each quarter is twenty-five cents. So if you put four quarters together, you have twenty-five... fifty... seventy-five... then ONE HUNDRED!!! Ok, you ready for snack time?
    Never knew there was a heads, tails and draw option when flipping something like a coin. Tell me again, what are my percentages of getting a draw in a coin flip?

    Boxing isn't as basic as flipping a quarter or even lining them up. Maybe the kids you work with could show you a game of rock, paper, scissors so you can somewhat have an understanding of the potential results in a boxing fight. If they fought again, and I'm explaining this to a casual boxing fan, I'd simply tell them that there's a 1 in 3 chance of Manny or JMM winning cause there could always be a draw.

    So the way you're explaining it is it basic arithmetic or something that, you yourself said, would have a nerdy statistician explain? I mean, help me out here Sheldon? If JMM has had better results in his last two fights against Manny.please explain to me why his chances of winning a potential fifth fight would be lower? He's got momentum, more confidence, a definite win, unlike the first three results and the power to put him to sleep... To me, at least, that seems like more than a 25% chance of him winning.


    Carry on though, this thread is comedy gold
    Last edited by hhs661; 08-22-2013, 05:23 PM.

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      Even whilst juiced up on PEDs he was still getting drilled and on the way to getting knocked out, lucky he got that lucky punch in haha...the whole world knows Marquez was juiced up to the max for the Pac fight, this is why he will never get the credit the horrible small man is desperate for!

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        Originally posted by GRboxing View Post
        Barrera even when Marquez beat him is better than Alvarado/Provodnikov combined. Hero is obviously new to this sport.
        p4p, but when you factor in his size disadvantage, it's a tougher matchup h2h. And even barely p4p, MAB had no good wins after, in fact right next got emasculated by Pac, like Mosley. Nobody even gives Pac credit for MAB 2

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          Originally posted by The Tase View Post
          totally unfair decision by marquez.

          Pac was the one who gave you your first shot at fame and glory when hamed, MAB, and morales mercilessly ducked you.

          He gave you 3 more money and career making fights and now you dont want to be a man and return the favor.

          DISGUSTING.

          Why? Because he knows pac was beating his ass in the last fight and he wont be allowed to roid up if they ever fought again.

          PISS OFF or should i say go drink some piss marquez. You'll wish you had that last fight vs pac when you are going broke and have to work for the Zetas.

          punk b*tch piss sipper.
          When will these know-nothings ever get it, that it as Marquez defending HIS title in the first fight, so Pacquiao didn't give him a first anything. Remember, if Miguel Cotto had agreed to another catchweight, the fourth fight wouldn't have happened. It was the best option left at the time.

          Now, if there was another fight, I'd watch it. BUT- what happened to all the "final chapter" statements by Marquez, Pacquiao and even Roach? They all said the fourth was the last one, didn't they? Win or lose, right? They were going for the defintive finish. No controversy. I don't remember anyone saying: "It's the last one, for sure...... unless I get laid out, then I want another go".

          I continue to find fellow boxing internet geeks calling elite fighters, "coward" or "*****" from the safety of a keyboard. While we think sitting on a couch watching the sport or typing insults at fellow "fans" means something to the sport, Marquez has given blood to boxing. Whatever he decides to do is fine with me. If being 2-1-1 or 3-1 meant as much to Pacquiao as it does his diehards, he wouldn't be looking for another fight.

          They're both great fighters, no doubt. But it makes all the sense in the world that for Marquez, the satisfaction of taking any decision out of the judges hands must be the sweetest thing. While for Pacquiao, the close wins don't make up for the feeling of being left face down at the end of things. That's just the way it is for now.

          It doesn't change the fact that they're two of the best of this generation and deserve full respect.

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            Greatest Catch Weight Champion of All Times.......

            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
            Paquiao should respond with "I'll walk away the greater fighter". Then both can move on.
            Yeah Manny should respond in that fashion and walk away. He should claim the catch weight champion title and d walk away. But if Marquez is holding a urine bottle/blood drawing needle you can expect Manny to run not walk away. Hahahahahahahaahah............ What a loser, Marquez took his losses with dignity. He made his complaint about the judging and moved on. Now that the entire world has seen that Marquez fought a fight to make it clear who really is the better man, Manny is crying LAB. The guy has been talking so much garbage I hate to be Rios on fight night since I know his breath will be funky as hell from doing so. I agree with Marquez, he proved he won all but the fight that should have been a draw with that KO of Manny, no need to knock Manny out again. I would hate to see the guys wife crying all over again while he take another comatose nap in the ring.....
            Last edited by oneon11; 08-22-2013, 05:36 PM.

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              Originally posted by Marvellous1 View Post
              When will these know-nothings ever get it, that it as Marquez defending HIS title in the first fight, so Pacquiao didn't give him a first anything. Remember, if Miguel Cotto had agreed to another catchweight, the fourth fight wouldn't have happened. It was the best option left at the time.

              Now, if there was another fight, I'd watch it. BUT- what happened to all the "final chapter" statements by Marquez, Pacquiao and even Roach? They all said the fourth was the last one, didn't they? Win or lose, right? They were going for the defintive finish. No controversy. I don't remember anyone saying: "It's the last one, for sure...... unless I get laid out, then I want another go".

              I continue to find fellow boxing internet geeks calling elite fighters, "coward" or "*****" from the safety of a keyboard. While we think sitting on a couch watching the sport or typing insults at fellow "fans" means something to the sport, Marquez has given blood to boxing. Whatever he decides to do is fine with me. If being 2-1-1 or 3-1 meant as much to Pacquiao as it does his diehards, he wouldn't be looking for another fight.

              They're both great fighters, no doubt. But it makes all the sense in the world that for Marquez, the satisfaction of taking any decision out of the judges hands must be the sweetest thing. While for Pacquiao, the close wins don't make up for the feeling of being left face down at the end of things. That's just the way it is for now.

              It doesn't change the fact that they're two of the best of this generation and deserve full respect.
              These were Manny's words

              " What does this fourth fight with Marquez mean to me? It
              means the chance to author the final chapter of a
              marvelous story and to look forward to writing a new
              chapter in my ring life."

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                Originally posted by nathan_nall View Post
                I was talking predictability. And yes, that is math. There is an entire industry built around probability in boxing. It is called the ******** industry. And if you're at all interested, Marquez stated he wanted the knockout before all four fights. In the first three, he didn't get it, so he graciously accepted when Pacquiao offered him a rematch. I'm fine if they never even look at each other again. I'm only saying that for Marquez to lose twice in a row then call it quits after a win is a Charlie Zelenoff move.
                Dude just shut up with your bs you know very well pac got those gift decisions because he was the cash cow, do your probality on cash cows instead you clown

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                  Originally posted by T18Z View Post
                  Majority decision in there too.

                  Don't be mad that Pacquaio is 3-0-1.
                  Its not 3-0-1 they drew a fight.

                  Marquez Knockdowns >>> Any Pacquiao Knockdowns.
                  Marquez Brutal KO >>> any of the 2 robbery's.
                  Marquez Did what Pacquiao could never do in a million years.

                  Marquez is better ring IQ and Counter punching ability.

                  Marquez is better than Manny.

                  5th fight? Do you really wish to have Pacquiao Brutally KO'ed again? this will ruin him. He should stay away from Marquez otherwise he could expect to get ragg-dolled.
                  Last edited by BajanXLegend; 08-22-2013, 05:54 PM.

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                    Originally posted by hhs661 View Post
                    Never knew there was a heads, tails and draw option when flipping something like a coin. Tell me again, what are my percentages of getting a draw in a coin flip?

                    Boxing isn't as basic as flipping a quarter or even lining them up. Maybe the kids you work with could show you a game of rock, paper, scissors so you can somewhat have an understanding of the potential results in a boxing fight. If they fought again, and I'm explaining this to a casual boxing fan, I'd simply tell them that there's a 1 in 3 chance of Manny or JMM winning cause there could always be a draw.

                    So the way you're explaining it is it basic arithmetic or something that, you yourself said, would have a nerdy statistician explain? I mean, help me out here Sheldon? If JMM has had better results in his last two fights against Manny.please explain to me why his chances of winning a potential fifth fight would be lower? He's got momentum, more confidence, a definite win, unlike the first three results and the power to put him to sleep... To me, at least, that seems like more than a 25% chance of him winning.


                    Carry on though, this thread is comedy gold
                    Rock paper sizzors is a perfect example. There are three possible selections and three possible outcomes win, lose, draw. Now, throw them into a matrix for analysis (such as IBM SPSS) and you'd find that of the three possible selections and three possible outcomes, there are three ways to win, three ways to lose, and five ways to draw.

                    If you played a thousand times, you'd find that player 1 would win about 280 times, player 2 would win about 280 times, and they would draw about 440 times. Now this would not be exact, as there is always what we call standard of error. In a nutshell, this takes into account that nothing can be predicted with 100% accuray. The social sciences (of which I'm a part of) work off a margin of error of .05. The hard sciences (physics, biology, chemistry) work off of a .0001 degree of error for something to be statistically significant. You've heard of the "bell curve"? Well, Manny has twice as many wins over Marquez as Marquez has over Manny. The draw simply widens the spread.

                    Now contrary to popular belief, Vegas does not send out boxing officionados out to give their best guess. They work off of statistics... punch stats, a rating system... etc, to choose who they believe will win. And Vegas is right c. 80% of the time. Anytime statistics are wrong... we call that little diddy an "upset". The reason the fight is an "upset" is because the person favored to win has lost.

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                      Originally posted by wizard king View Post
                      Dude just shut up with your bs you know very well pac got those gift decisions because he was the cash cow, do your probality on cash cows instead you clown
                      They still allowing people with so much red K to comment and claim they know what they are talking about?

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