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    #61
    I don't think 'Swift' has ever been hit with the kind of power Lucas possesses, alot of people on this forum claim to know the outcome before the fight, Sure nothing wrong with backing your man but the facts are, anything can happen, It's possible Garcia will avoid being KO'd but from my knowledge of his history and his style of fighting, I can't see that happening, I really can't

    Weather it will be a game ending TKO I don't know, but I'm sure he's gonna get severely rocked at some point, and then we'll know.

    It's also possible Garcia will land big on Lucas too, and I'm hoping he does, just so we can see how rigid his chin is, put it back on test, we know of a few moments where he's been "rocked" and he's handled them well so far, lets see it again!

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      #62
      Originally posted by retnuocllup View Post
      Have you ever seen Mathysse backed up an entire fight?

      If Danny runs, he'll last a few more rounds, maybe even make it to the final Bell. If Danny trades, he'll be sleeping on the canvas, and Danny likes to trade cause he believes in his power.
      Negative! Matthysse never backs up for an entire fight and I don't expect Danny to fight off his back foot either. It's not his style. He's more of a puncher/counterpuncher than a boxer. However, if he does, then it will be a tell-tale sign that he has felt Lucas' power; Just like he did in the last three rounds, in his bout with an aging, slower and weaker Zab Judah. Moreover, Garcia backing up will also indicate that he is on the verge of getting knocked out; Because Matthysse's confidence will soar, if he sees Danny retreating from him. Lamont Peterson made a similar mistake in his bout with Matthysse by backing up. He showed Lucas too much respect and in return, Matthysse saw that as a sign of fear and then started closing the distance very shortly thereafter, by roughhousing Lamont into a very physical and fast paced fight. Then we all witnessed what happened after that when he eventually stopped him.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Mr. Philadel View Post
        I'm supposed to believe that Lucas fought a more motivated Zab than Swift did?!?....am I supposed to believe that fighting THEE champ in the division is less motivational than fighting some unknown cat who just gotta "out of order" sign stamped on his eye by a shot fighter in only 4 rounds of violence?!?...Danny fought a much better more motivated version of Zab

        Lamont getting trucked just adds to my point....he was the smaller dude on fight night as well....Swift is a big boy....he's coming in 150 plus not 140 and a breeze like Zab and Lamont

        Lucas beat Lamont's ass....he deserves credit so don't think I'm discrediting him like you dudes tend to do with my man Swift....I'm just trying to tell you that it's very possible Swift will take those punches better than the others did and it's not a given Lucas eat Swift's best like he did the smaller Zab's....do you agree?
        The idea was to feed the then-unkown Matthysse to Zab. If anything Zab had the upper hand in confidence fighting a guy that wasnt supposed to cause him any problems. If by better you mean older and even more past his prime then yes.

        Peterson is taller than Danny, he was supposed to have even more of a height advantage punching down and using that jab.
        Trying to have a serious conversation here for a change, I'll try to explain why no, I dont agree.
        If we go by “you're only as good as your last fight” and we look at the last few fights of each fighter we see that Danny isnt in any way impressive, with two KOs, one against Khan where he was getting outboxed until he landed a neck punch, 3 UD and 1 SD. On the other hand Matthysse has been destroying everyone, with impressive KO over his last 6 opponents.
        Khan is probably Danny's best victory, given that Morales is a pitiful shadow of the boxer he once was. And how did the Khan fight go? He was getting beaten, Angel Garcia said it well himself, and I quote his exact words before round 3 “he's picking you apart Danny!” until he landed a lucky punch. I'm sorry but that's all it was. Angel proves that when he says Khan is picking appart his son, he didnt say "well done Danny stick to the plan, keep getting hit trying to time the guy!".

        That was a fight he was losing until the KO, with a nasty cut on his eye. Sorry, but not an impressive performance.
        On the other hand Lucas destroyed an IBF champ Peterson in three rounds. A Peterson that by the way had beaten Khan too.(triangle theories again).
        I dont see why Garcia is supposed to take Lucas punches better than anyone else. If anything Garcia was hurt by Zab in the last 3 rounds more than Matthysse was ever hurt in his career. According to Lucas, who's a pretty honest guy, Coto hurt him the most, and to be honest he didnt look all that hurt if you ask me. Danny also tends to get cut and bleed easily.

        Im trying to be objective here. Of course I'm a Matthysse fan like any other Argentine probably is, but I dont see what Garcia brings to the table that gives him an edge in this fight. Of course its boxing, of course everyone has a punchers chance, especially a world champ, but then its like Martinez vs Chavez Jr where everyone knew he would humiliate Jr. and he did just that. Even when getting his lucky punchers chance in the 12 Martinez still got up and kept beating the much bigger Jr. Different fights, different styles but its that kind of thing where you see one boxer just being better than the other.

        Mr. Philadel, bro, if Khan cut Garcia’s eye with a punch in two rounds, can you imagine what Matthysse will do to him? If Zab Judah was hurting Danny for the last 3 rounds in his last fight, the current version of Matthysse bites off his head and sucks his soul through his severed spine.

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          #64
          Before the fight: Matthysse has never fought someone bigger than him or as big as Peterson. He's also never faced someone who will pressure him.

          After the fight: Peterson was the smaller guy and wasn't on roids.


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            #65
            Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
            Before the fight: Matthysse has never fought someone bigger than him or as big as Peterson. He's also never faced someone who will pressure him.

            After the fight: Peterson was the smaller guy and wasn't on roids.


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            **** riders cant keep doing their thing and all but real boxing fans should watch the last three or four fights of each boxer.
            You cant do that with an objective eye and see Garcia as a favorite. Matthysse isnt just confident, he's much more solid, well rounded boxer with scary power.
            Peterson was the perfect example of Tysons quote of everyone having a plan until they get punched in the face. With the first solid straight hand Lucas landed on Peterson in round 1 the plan went out the window.

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              #66
              Originally posted by FerFAL View Post
              The idea was to feed the then-unkown Matthysse to Zab. If anything Zab had the upper hand in confidence fighting a guy that wasnt supposed to cause him any problems. If by better you mean older and even more past his prime then yes.

              Peterson is taller than Danny, he was supposed to have even more of a height advantage punching down and using that jab.
              Trying to have a serious conversation here for a change, I'll try to explain why no, I dont agree.
              If we go by “you're only as good as your last fight” and we look at the last few fights of each fighter we see that Danny isnt in any way impressive, with two KOs, one against Khan where he was getting outboxed until he landed a neck punch, 3 UD and 1 SD. On the other hand Matthysse has been destroying everyone, with impressive KO over his last 6 opponents.
              Khan is probably Danny's best victory, given that Morales is a pitiful shadow of the boxer he once was. And how did the Khan fight go? He was getting beaten, Angel Garcia said it well himself, and I quote his exact words before round 3 “he's picking you apart Danny!” until he landed a lucky punch. I'm sorry but that's all it was. Angel proves that when he says Khan is picking appart his son, he didnt say "well done Danny stick to the plan, keep getting hit trying to time the guy!".

              That was a fight he was losing until the KO, with a nasty cut on his eye. Sorry, but not an impressive performance.
              On the other hand Lucas destroyed an IBF champ Peterson in three rounds. A Peterson that by the way had beaten Khan too.(triangle theories again).
              I dont see why Garcia is supposed to take Lucas punches better than anyone else. If anything Garcia was hurt by Zab in the last 3 rounds more than Matthysse was ever hurt in his career. According to Lucas, who's a pretty honest guy, Coto hurt him the most, and to be honest he didnt look all that hurt if you ask me. Danny also tends to get cut and bleed easily.

              Im trying to be objective here. Of course I'm a Matthysse fan like any other Argentine probably is, but I dont see what Garcia brings to the table that gives him an edge in this fight. Of course its boxing, of course everyone has a punchers chance, especially a world champ, but then its like Martinez vs Chavez Jr where everyone knew he would humiliate Jr. and he did just that. Even when getting his lucky punchers chance in the 12 Martinez still got up and kept beating the much bigger Jr. Different fights, different styles but its that kind of thing where you see one boxer just being better than the other.

              Mr. Philadel, bro, if Khan cut Garcia’s eye with a punch in two rounds, can you imagine what Matthysse will do to him? If Zab Judah was hurting Danny for the last 3 rounds in his last fight, the current version of Matthysse bites off his head and sucks his soul through his severed spine.

              You are not being truthful to yourself in your simple assessments. First of all, do you really think Khan would not box circles around Matthysse until he finally gets KTFO? You are basing WAY too much on the fact that Khan is a fast MFer and would give ANYBODY problems until they land that "lucky" punch. Khan picks Matthysse apart with as well until Matthyse lands the game changer. To sit here and pretend Lucas would have outboxed khan makes you sound silly.

              And Danny is on record saying his arm was tight for the last three rounds. In no moment against Zab did Danny see stars. He was bothered at times but it is a BIG difference from being "hurt" as you say.

              I don't put much into triangle theories or how a fighter looked against so and so because as you saw, Zab came to fight Danny after lookin like utter shet in the khan fight, or how about Marquez? Looking like a btch against Floyd, then comes back to knock Manny the **** out while high on Tainted beef. It's ALL about the energy in a particular fight or the power pellets taken in the dressing room as I hear Lucas is fond of ingesting. But as I mentioned earlier, Angel will be keeping an eye on those power pellets.

              So keep telling us how Lucas KO'd Peterson, and how this means more than it does in the Garcia fight and on the 14th, you will see why you are quite the typical fan. How many times have we elevated a fighter based on his last performance, only to see him exposed months later?

              Recall Manny? There was a time not long ago where nobody would say Marquez lands ONE shot and puts Manny to sleep... or that Bradley would "beat" Manny. Sept 14th...
              Last edited by FerFal'sStepDad; 08-18-2013, 11:14 AM.

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                #67
                I got Danny on this fight. It will be war and he will come on top!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Da Boxer View Post
                  I got Danny on this fight. It will be war and he will come on top!
                  Looking at your avi, I am reminded of how Danny was able to KO Mike Arnoutis, the same guy that went the distance with a killer like Ricardo Torres. I think people underestimate Danny power in both hands.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by FerFal'sStepDad View Post
                    Looking at your avi, I am reminded of how Danny was able to KO Mike Arnoutis, the same guy that went the distance with a killer like Ricardo Torres. I think people underestimate Danny power in both hands.
                    You are correct.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by FerFal'sStepDad
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                      Originally Posted by Da Boxer

                      I got Danny on this fight. It will be war and he will come on top!

                      Looking at your avi, I am reminded of how Danny was able to KO Mike Arnoutis, the same guy that went the distance with a killer like Ricardo Torres. I think people underestimate Danny power in both hands.
                      Lmao gtfoh. You mean 4 years later after Ortiz had already soften him up?

                      Yall Garcia fans are full of it and try to find any little thing to try and convince yourselves of something that's not there.


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