Comments Thread For: Marquez Eyes Fifth World Crown, Fighting Outside The U.S.

[piojo del norte]

JMM is different to Guerrero so is Arce.

JMM was elevated to real champion meaning his status changed to full champion. Don't argue with me, argue with the WBO who made him the real champion.

Jorge Arce is a 4 weight champion.

He was the WBC 108, WBC INTERIM 112 (WHICH DOESN'T COUNT), 115 interim WBA but then won the legitimate WBO at 115, then he beat Vazquez jr for the legitimate 122 WBO crown and then went down to 118 bantam and won the WBO legitimate title.

JMM and Jorge Arce are both 4 time world champions in as many weight classes.

Say's anyone.

"Interim champions" aren't actual Champions. They are as legitimate as being a WBU Champion or any other fake champion.

Jorge Arce isn't a 4 weight world Champion either.

Robert Guererro is recognised as a 2 weight world champion, rightfully so, because he's won Interim titles in 2 weight classes and actual titles in 2 others.

The only person who's won actual world titles in 4 different weight classes from Mexico is Erik Morales.

[LeG00N]

Marquez is a living deity

He's already a 5 division champ in my eyes

[LeG00N]

Say's anyone.

"Interim champions" aren't actual Champions. They are as legitimate as being a WBU Champion or any other fake champion.

Jorge Arce isn't a 4 weight world Champion either.

Robert Guererro is recognised as a 2 weight world champion, rightfully so, because he's won Interim titles in 2 weight classes and actual titles in 2 others.

The only person who's won actual world titles in 4 different weight classes from Mexico is Erik Morales.

He was elevated to full champion... he's the actual WBO champ at 140

[IronDanHamza]

JMM is different to Guerrero so is Arce.

JMM was elevated to real champion meaning his status changed to full champion. Don't argue with me, argue with the WBO who made him the real champion.

Jorge Arce is a 4 weight champion.

He was the WBC 108, WBC INTERIM 112 (WHICH DOESN'T COUNT), 115 interim WBA but then won the legitimate WBO at 115, then he beat Vazquez jr for the legitimate 122 WBO crown and then went down to 118 bantam and won the WBO legitimate title.

JMM and Jorge Arce are both 4 time world champions in as many weight classes.

You don't get elevated to being a champion. You win a championship, whether it's vacant or against another Champion.

I wasn't aware Arce won another title, I stand corrected on that.

[piojo del norte]

Well why not, that's for the sanctioning bodies to decide not us. If you have a fighter who is the interim champion but your real championship is vacant it's only logical that fighter will become the full champion.

So if the president was to die and the vice president becomes president, he shouldn't be considered the president? I think he should, that is just my opinion.

You don't get elevated to being a champion. You win a championship, whether it's vacant or against another Champion.

I wasn't aware Arce won another title, I stand corrected on that.

[IronDanHamza]

He was elevated to full champion... he's the actual WBO champ at 140

Being elevated means nothing.

He won the interim title. How can you win an interim title and then be "elevated" for no reason?

It might say he's the WBO Champion but he won the Interim title and that's what he is at 140.

[IronDanHamza]

Well why not, that's for the sanctioning bodies to decide not us. If you have a fighter who is the interim champion but your real championship is vacant it's only logical that fighter will become the full champion.

So if the president was to die and the vice president becomes president, he shouldn't be considered the president? I think he should, that is just my opinion.

The sactioning bodies can't just decide who is a champion. You have to win it.

If you win the interim title and do nothing else after than you are the interim champion. It doesn't matter if you get "elevated".

That example is not the same but it's like saying if the guy who is the Champion at a certain class dies then the person ranked below him becomes the Champion for doing nothing.

No, they shouldn't be considered the Champion if they didn't win a title.

[LeG00N]

Being elevated means nothing.

He won the interim title. How can you win an interim title and then be "elevated" for no reason?

It might say he's the WBO Champion but he won the Interim title and that's what he is at 140.

in other words you don't agree with how he became a world champ.
That still doesn't mean he isn't a legitimate 4 division champ.

I don't agree with a division having 4 different titles... it doesn't matter. There's still 4 champions per division some of which you recognize as legitimate champions. Like Morales who won his 4th division title against bum ass Cano.

[One_Tycoon]

Meanwhile, Mitt Romney only pays a 15% tax rate, and unlike Marquez, doesn't put his life on the line doing it. He deserves to keep as much money as possible considering the sacrifices he makes, not to mention the fact that he doesn't even benefit from living in the U.S.

Mitt Romney paid his dues. He too once paid a Income Tax, which is usually higher than a Capital Gains Tax (which was 15%..now it's higher). The average small business owner pays a income tax, and if he invests his earned money and profits...he will also pay the mitt romney 15% tax. Get it through your thick skull.

If you conclusion is to raise Mitt Romney's tax so it's on par with Marquez's..then you're wrong. It's the opposite. Lower marquez's tax down to Mitt Romney's of 15...problem solved.

[$Bullsfam$]

He's only a 3 weight world Champion at the moment so he'd be eyeing his 4th world crown in different weight classes.

That can easily be fixed. If he beats Bradley that's a legitimate 4 and then if Rios steam rolls Alvarez which is no guarantee, he could fight for a belt in the fall and fight Marquez in the winter.

Hoping this scenario happens. Bradley vs Marquez is a sick top 5 welterweight battle for true hard ore boxing fans. And Marquez vs Rios must be his retirement fight that's a guaranteed ATG WAR.


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