mayweather vs guerrero a done deal, canelo on undercard

[Carpe Diem]

I can't complain much since i won't buy the PPV, but this will be a sparring session. The only good thing to come out of this is that I'll get to see Floyd in the ring again.

[dan_cov]

Canelo fought Lopez at 167 on fight night. Sergio typically weighs 165-167 on fight night.

I actually think Sergio could make it back down to 154. It may be difficult, but the guy stays in great shape and does not look emaciated at all (the opposite of someone like Chavez) when he weighs in at 159 for his MW fights. A catchweight of 152 or 150 would be extremely difficult, but Martinez has said he would take 6 months off to try to lose the weight in as healthy as manner as possible.

I think Sergio came in a few lbs lighter for Chavez Jr as he was looking to be fast as possible? I think he was 167-169 for Barker & Macklin.
We are talking legacy right? If he drains Sergio down to say 150-152 would that do anything for his legacy at all? I don't think it would and I think Sergio would be a zombie at that sort of weight. I have doubts he could safely get back down to 154 and I genuinely believe 154 was not his best weight.
He was very good at 154 but I feel he is better as a middleweight.

[ИATAS]

I would be fairly surprised. All parties want (golden boy promotions, canelo) want cotto. It would turn a big ppv from mayweather fighting, into an even bigger ppv. Angulo seems to be too much of a risk for canelo, and not even really known. Fight serves canelo no purpose, in auditioning for a mayweather fight.

***....might as well fight ***n trout

Not enough money to go around when Floyd will want his $40 million or whatever.

Plus Canelo vs Cotto is its own PPV. Golden Boy knows that.

[IMDAZED]

I can't complain much since i won't buy the PPV, but this will be a sparring session. The only good thing to come out of this is that I'll get to see Floyd in the ring again.

Only thing that would make this fight more interesting is if Floyd can't pull the trigger like he used to. He'd be in deep **** if that were to happen.

[Southpawology]

He just got $12million for Mayweather, and probably $3-5Million for Trout. It's gonna take more than 1Mill+ to get him back so soon. He needs a vacation, he just fought 2 fights 5 months apart. He will not fight yet again just 5 months after. If we're talking about Canelo vs Cotto as a HBO main event PPV, yeah of course he'd come back, that'll be a lot of money for both fighters. The PPV would do pretty good numbers, maybe 500k+.

Ask yourself when was the last time Cotto fought on an undercard BTW?

True, you make great points. I was just saying if the payday is good enough it can change anyones mind. Cottos getting up there and he knows he doesnt have much time left. He needs to bank as many of those big paydays as he can before its over.

[RapidFire26]

sergio offered pacquiao a catchweight not floyd and if im not mistaken pacquiao was actually the one that brought up the catchweight but sergio or his team did not offer floyd a fight at 150 catchweight.
what happened about sergio being to big for jmw?what happened to all those people that were crying about sergio not moving up to smw to fight ward?so depending on the context of the conversation sergio is either to big or small enough depending on peoples agenda

"Former two division world champion Sergio Martinez says he’s willing to fight Floyd MayweatherJr at 150 pound catchweight. However, Mayweather will have to wait until November before Martinez can fight him because he says he won’t be available until then, according to an interview at *************.com.

Mayweather recently told Yahoo Sports writer Kevin Iole that he’d be willing to fight Sergio Martinez on May 5th at the MGM Grand if Martinez is willing to get down to 150 to fight him at a catchweight.

Martinez told *************.com “I said 150 and I will keep my promise…I don’t have problems in fighting at Jr. Middleweight. Talk is cheap. Fight or shut up. November would be a good month. I would have enough time to reach 150 and you could be recovered from your holidays.?br />
Mayweather is still trying to make a deal with WBO"

-//www.************.com/2012/01/sergio-martinez-interested-in-facing-mayweather-in-november/

[Bushbaby]

The Ghost has earned his shot. The way he beat Berto is greater than gingers entire 40+ fights.

Now what really surprises me is that everyone thinks ginger walks through Angulo. To this day, December 21st 2012, ginger has yet to fight a jr middlweight that is as big as Angulo & packs Angulo's type of power.

I'll start trailblazing right now. If ginger faces a healthy Kirkland, or Angulo, he'll get stopped. Trout embarrasses him, Lara too. And quite frankly I'd pick Vanes over him too. Because ginger has done absolutely nothing to prove to me that he's better than any of the guys mentioned.

[The Tase]

The Ghost has earned his shot. The way he beat Berto is greater than gingers entire 40+ fights.

Now what really surprises me is that everyone thinks ginger walks through Angulo. To this day, December 21st 2012, ginger has yet to fight a jr middlweight that is as big as Angulo & packs Angulo's type of power.

I'll start trailblazing right now. If ginger faces a healthy Kirkland, or Angulo, he'll get stopped. Trout embarrasses him, Lara too. And quite frankly I'd pick Vanes over him too. Because ginger has done absolutely nothing to prove to me that he's better than any of the guys mentioned.

there's a reason why floyd's fight plan is the ghost and canelo.

nothing has changed with floyd.

still cherry picking.

[Carpe Diem]

Only thing that would make this fight more interesting is if Floyd can't pull the trigger like he used to. He'd be in deep **** if that were to happen.

I agree. But, i think he'll pull it off quite easily. Guerrero has enough workrate to take him out of his comfort zone, but even on Floyd's last legs, I think he'd beat Guerrero. I'll start worrying when/if Floyd fight Alvarez in September.

[dan_cov]

you have to take risks to be the best. he could get seriously hurt in any fight strictly speaking. im just of the opinion that any other fight except martinez is just a fight to get money.

Very true! I mean boxing is a dangerous enough sport as it is and fights like that for me are going to increase the risks of getting seriously hurt.

Canelo is fair enough and he is near enough as big as Sergio but for me they're two totally different fighters.
Canelo is rather made to order despite he'd have a big size advantage. He has no jab, Sergio has one of the best in boxing.
Hes got a high workrate, great footwork, tremendous power and he is a southpaw.

I think there is a big difference between the two. One is flat-footed, has no jab, pretty untested and has a mediocre defense the other is a fleet-footed highly skilled boxer-puncher with K.O power in both hands proven against top notch opposition and coming fresh off rearranging the face of a cruiserweight.