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    #81
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    I don't like talking about Mayweather when it comes to Marquez's win over Pacquiao because JMM gets all props and just due for chasing Manny down and dropping the hammer on him. Speaking from a style stand point. Manny NEVER stood a chance against Mayweather due to Floyd being a counter puncher great and quick with his right hand. I think any fighter who is patient, uses movement and can adjust mid fight is a problem for Manny Pacquiao.

    The kid don't have no defensive fight game. He's all offense and speed I underestimated Manny in his early fights when he was moving up because I thought he could be out muscled but he proved me wrong because of his speed. Then I figured out that in order to beat him you have to counter him to slow him down. Let him lead and he is there wide open.
    Triangle Theory....this is getting better and better GRUSS.

    "Then I figured out that in order to beat him you have to counter him to slow him down. Let him lead and he is there wide open."

    Looks so easy right? Seems like you got it all figured out. Make sure Floyd gets the memo. He's not as confident as you are.

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      #82
      Originally posted by jr2122 View Post
      First off, to my recollection, he never said he was close to being stopped he said he was well aware that PAC could stop him at any point, which is a praise to PAC's power. With that being said, I disagree, I believe Marquez is pacquiao ******nite, whatever PAC does, Marquez will outsmart him. And I'm not saying he's more talented, Marquez is just the more complete fighter with a phD in boxing. Also, it's not the first time pacquiao had "jumped in" he made his career on lunging with the 1-2, and got caught, in that fight alone, with at least two huge counter rights. And lastly, PAC had a chance to finish him at the end of that 5th round but he wasnt smart, lacking any body work in that flurry.
      Totally agree with the phD comment. BUT, talking about "Pac had a chance to finish him at the end of that 5th round", it's not that easy to KO a guy like Marquez.

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        #83
        Originally posted by DominiBox View Post
        Totally agree with the phD comment. BUT, talking about "Pac had a chance to finish him at the end of that 5th round", it's not that easy to KO a guy like Marquez.
        Agreed. But he had him hurt, had he gone to the body, who knows what happens, but we do know what didn't happen.

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          #84
          Originally posted by DominiBox View Post
          Just like Lewis vs Rahman right? This is not a videogame chief. Pacquiao was beating Marquez before the KO. Nothing was "figured out"...It was just a perfect shot.
          so the Rahman KO of Lewis is equal to the Marquez KO over Pac?!?

          Marquez is a counter puncher...its his game to figure his opponents out...thats what he does bro...so yea, he had Manny so figured out that I can see him stretching Manny again.....all 3 judges had it 47-46 Pac when he went to sleep...Pac was winning but its not like he was running away with it like Lewis was...Lewis won every round he fought against Rahman can't say the same for Manny

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            #85
            Originally posted by Mr. Philadel View Post
            so the Rahman KO of Lewis is equal to the Marquez KO over Pac?!?

            Marquez is a counter puncher...its his game to figure his opponents out...thats what he does bro...so yea, he had Manny so figured out that I can see him stretching Manny again.....all 3 judges had it 47-46 Pac when he went to sleep...Pac was winning but its not like he was running away with it like Lewis was...Lewis won every round he fought against Rahman can't say the same for Manny
            Well, let's compare Marquez quality with Rahman's. Marquez is an ATG chief and above all, styles make fights.

            Great fighters CAN bounce back from big defeats. IMO, Pacquiao is a great fighter. Time will tell.

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              #86
              Originally posted by DominiBox View Post
              Well, let's compare Marquez quality with Rahman's. Marquez is an ATG chief and above all, styles make fights.

              Great fighters CAN bounce back from big defeats. IMO, Pacquiao is a great fighter. Time will tell.
              Manny will be fine as long as he doesn't fight Marquez again..and yea, dude is one of the Gods of the sport....can't take nothing from him as far as his relevance to the sport.....he's a major player for sure

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                #87
                Grustler I see, Hates Manny Pacquiao to death.

                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                After that KO I doubt any fighter who can throw a hard counter right hand is scared of Manny Pacquiao, especially since he can't even see them coming.
                There is only one JMM, and he has the sufficient timing and juice PED inspired strength to hit Manny. Any other fighter can try and is gonna get KO'd.

                Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                stop whining dude. Manny got KTFO and JMM passed the same commission tests you've advocated for years. "Let the commission do its job" or have you changed your tune?
                JMM was PED'd through out training camp. He passed the NSAC tests, so what. I can administer PED's to any of my clients and get them all to pass the state tests... State Tests=Joke.

                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                What was su****ious about the bout? Roach accused Marquez of juicing but didn't emphasized on doing the random blood and urine testing. Pacquiao and Marquez took the same test the commission gives like Manny and Roach has always been screaming about and both passed. Who was dirty? If people think Marquez was dirty then why not Pacquiao? Marquez NEVER refused a random blood and urine test like Manny and Roach did and constantly have been screaming about "Mayweather is not the commission" and "we abide by the commission testing" since Mayweather accused Manny of juicing. Manny got a pass for refusing. Marquez had Heredia with him in the 3rd fight but didn't KO Manny but rather fought a more cautious fight. Notice in the 4th how he went to the body more and took a lot more punishment to sit down more on his punches. Nowadays people who watch boxing act like they never saw a fighter get KO'd or can get KO'd? Manny wasn't invincible AND Marquez has always been the better fighter and showed it in all 4 fights.
                What was su****ious wasn't that Roach accused anything. Any blind man Can see JMM was juiced properly, and PED'd out to the fullest by a professional, as is confirmed by his negative test.

                I administer performance drugs almost every day. I know what to look for and I know how they change the body. JMM was juiced. Every Athlete, besides combatants, should be able to use PED's, they help the body to recover faster and prevents the normal break down of the human body after the age of 30.

                If you don't think JMM looked juiced and su****ious, your just lying to yourself. I am telling you professionally, that he was juiced & PED'd to the fullest.

                Memo deserves every penny he charged JMM. He did his job faithfully.

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                  #88
                  @mr philly

                  Originally posted by Mr. Philadel View Post
                  Manny will be fine as long as he doesn't fight Marquez again..and yea, dude is one of the Gods of the sport....can't take nothing from him as far as his relevance to the sport.....he's a major player for sure
                  I don't think 'no mas' is in Manny's vocabulary. Manny's been down this road before.

                  ...its not like he is some undefeated fighter and lost a fight like that. Imagine if Floyd gets KO'd like that .... suicide probably. Mannys gonna be on fire next fight. He is gonna rematch JMM in september, and he is going for the KO. He will be seeking redemption to silence the critics. He knows that ain't gonna happen with some boring decision.

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                    #89
                    @grustler

                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    I don't like talking about Mayweather when it comes to Marquez's win over Pacquiao because JMM gets all props and just due for chasing Manny down and dropping the hammer on him. Speaking from a style stand point. Manny NEVER stood a chance against Mayweather due to Floyd being a counter puncher great and quick with his right hand. I think any fighter who is patient, uses movement and can adjust mid fight is a problem for Manny Pacquiao.

                    The kid don't have no defensive fight game. He's all offense and speed I underestimated Manny in his early fights when he was moving up because I thought he could be out muscled but he proved me wrong because of his speed. Then I figured out that in order to beat him you have to counter him to slow him down. Let him lead and he is there wide open.
                    Triangle theories don't work grust. Floyd will probably think Manny is vulnerable now .... he might actually grow a pair.

                    Too bad for Floyd, he a vulture & and he might not have got the memo that triangle theories don't work. BOOM lights out. Manny throws 100 punches like JMM's KO punch ... every fight. Manny is gonna hit Floyd, and I personally think JMMs chin> Floyds chin.

                    Looking forward to MannyVSMay now that Floyd finally has a reason to change his diaper and get ready for a real fight.

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                      #90
                      "I think Pacquiao should go and be the Hawaiian President or whatever it is,"??? Smh.......

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