Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr. Thinks Marquez Could KO Pacquiao Again

[Garofalo]

They both have the ability to Knock each other out.

[PAC-BOY]

I should make my position clear. I've never been a 'commission did its job' poster. I have praised Mayweather in the past for his stance on drug testing. I felt Marquez won the Pacquiao third fight 8 rounds to 4 and condemned the corrupt judging. I am a fan of both boxers and I do not believe either fighter would deliberately cheat.

I am also primarily a boxing fan above all, not fond of injustice in what is already a dangerous sport.

I'm not going to put my head in the sand and pretend there was nothing su****ious about the bout and I don't think anyone else who feels that way should either.

Good poster!

[TheBoxingBanger]

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Regardless of the knock-out, the knock-down also nearly took Pac's head off, after 37 rounds of never knocking him down.

Seriously, Any person with a brain can see Marquez was on the sauce, and in good quantity too. JMM was just properly cleansed and cycle of the drugs properly, which is easy to do.

There is a visible uplift in Marquez's power, this is beyond question imo.

Funny huh. They say power is the last thing to go on a fighter who is aging, but, it surely doesn't icrease by leaps and bounds at 40 years of age. Unless you start getting on the sauce. Memo has the good stuff too. Class A juice.

Damn,you're stuck on this Marquez is on steroids thing

Everybody is really. Its so obvious Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles started calling out JMM for juicing.

In other words what Floyd Sr is trying to say is...."please walk away Manny...I dont you to make a comeback and beat the shlt out of my son"! :manyWORD:

Triangle theories don't work in boxing, although they are a pretty useful measuring sticks in the real world. NOT in boxing though. This has been proven over and over and over. Look on the bright side, after this Floyd thinks he can beats Manny for sure. The problem is he is thinking with triangle brain. The fight might actually be made sometime now, although its lost 50percent of its mystique. I still think JMM/JMM 2.0 with juice has a better beard than Mayweather, so when Manny stars landing those bombs Floyd is getting taken into a championship fight for sure. Triangle theories don't work, look for fight of will power. I think Manny will probably be on a KO RAMPAGE for the rest of his career, so as to silence the critics OR it will be another loss/ko and retirement. I don't think we will see Manny mediocrity, Roach would advise him to hang 'em up if the fire ain't there no more.

More like a visible loss in Manny's ability to see punches coming...Manny said he did not hit any harder, but yet we are suppose to listen to you, to hell with the guy who was getting hit.

@Calabis, You obviously have never been in the squared circle. Regardless of whatever, Manny is a fighter and he has his pride. Even in defeat, he didn't want to admit that he felt he was getting sledgehammered in the face by the incredible hulk. He just chose to have some class, admit defeat, and diffuse the questioning in the easiest way possible by saying he "didn't see the punch" .... however, any blind man who saw parts 1, 2 & 3 knows there is noticeable size and strength difference in Marquez. Juice was involved predominantly for the entire past year with the Marquez/Memo team.

:WORD: at the people who think the Ko will change Manny. If anything its gonna make him more solid of A fighter. More patience will be in his arsenal!
He showed no signs of a declining fighter. He walked into a shot. So what! A fighter with a strong mind can overcome anything. Manny is one of the most carefree humble humans youd ever come across. He was over the KO on the way to the Hospital! Plus he knows how it is to lose. And be stopped! only thing on his mind is redemption!

The one thing here is that after that 1st KD he got up started in high gear again, he isn't afraid to trade. He looked the best he has looked for a while and was turning it up the whole 6 rounds.

Its not like an undefeated fighter losing the first time in shocking fashion, and being mentally damaged forever. Manny has been here, not for a while, but he has been here before.

Redemption: Look for a series of brutal beatings. I think Manny will be on KO rampage for the rest of his career. I think Manny is bummed out, that he lost in such a fashion but he knows JMM was juiced. When the playing field is leveled again look for the opposite to happen. You heard it here first. I'm picking Manny by way of KO in the 6th, when part 5 goes down.

As long as PED pusher Heredia is on Marquez's side he will continue to drop PAC. Totally surprised the PED accusations didn't come from Sr. Mouth considering the evidence was clear as day PEDMarquez was juiced.

The 5th fight will be under intense scrutiny. The only way to beat the drug use is to have random blood testing. You also have to begin the drug screening at the announcement of the fight, not just during training camp, because by that time Memo will just cycle cleanse JMM.

The juicing was crystal clear. JMM bodyfat percentage was too low, to have been able to support all the new muscle mass. Then his strength & explosiveness was increased.

This only happens with drugs folks. I know, I administer them.

[Rajon34]

I agree with my boy Marquez-Mayweather II

[Frank Ducketts]

Pac can't beat Marquez. Pac's suspect chin has been awakened. There is no coming back from that. Pac's done, and I don't say that to disrespect the man. Pac's done!

[SpeedKillz]

I should make my position clear. I've never been a 'commission did its job' poster. I have praised Mayweather in the past for his stance on drug testing. I felt Marquez won the Pacquiao third fight 8 rounds to 4 and condemned the corrupt judging. I am a fan of both boxers and I do not believe either fighter would deliberately cheat.

I am also primarily a boxing fan above all, not fond of injustice in what is already a dangerous sport.

I'm not going to put my head in the sand and pretend there was nothing su****ious about the bout and I don't think anyone else who feels that way should either.

right fair enough. good post

[GRUSTLER]

I should make my position clear. I've never been a 'commission did its job' poster. I have praised Mayweather in the past for his stance on drug testing. I felt Marquez won the Pacquiao third fight 8 rounds to 4 and condemned the corrupt judging. I am a fan of both boxers and I do not believe either fighter would deliberately cheat.

I am also primarily a boxing fan above all, not fond of injustice in what is already a dangerous sport.

I'm not going to put my head in the sand and pretend there was nothing su****ious about the bout and I don't think anyone else who feels that way should either.

Bulls#!t..... Marquez timed and caught Pacquiao with a solid shot he didn't see. He has been using that same punch on Manny for years! Even wobbled him in the 2nd fight with punches and shook him up in the 3rd. All the dude had to do is time when Manny was coming in and put all of his force into the punch. Why the hell do you need steroids for that? Marquez has 40 KO's on his resume (more than Manny) people acting like it was Pauli Malignaggi or Ivan Calderon who KO'd Pac. Marquez KO'd Diaz, Katsidis and Casamayor. All guys with tough beards and never been down hard. My thing is.... People keep making it out like it takes steroids to KO Pac when this guy has been KO'd before and he doesn't have the greatest defense in the world.

I would be more su****ious of Manny taking hits from Cotto and Margarito. Makes me sick how people speculate and don't know the facts. That's why I never accused Pacquiao of taking anything but rather felt it was su****ious to not want to do tests but facts remain that he has never been caught cheating and neither has Marquez. Both were clean in this bout and both could have been cheating or not. Fact is, Marquez put Pacquiao's head to bed and if Manny fights wasn't so well matched, and he would have fought a couple of more guys like Marquez or defensive fighters or fighters who used movement, then we would not have see the dominance he has displayed since moving up from 130. The punch reminded me of Martinez KO over Williams. JMM did his homework and got a 100 on the test.

[GRUSTLER]

right fair enough. good post

What was su****ious about the bout? Roach accused Marquez of juicing but didn't emphasized on doing the random blood and urine testing. Pacquiao and Marquez took the same test the commission gives like Manny and Roach has always been screaming about and both passed. Who was dirty? If people think Marquez was dirty then why not Pacquiao? Marquez NEVER refused a random blood and urine test like Manny and Roach did and constantly have been screaming about "Mayweather is not the commission" and "we abide by the commission testing" since Mayweather accused Manny of juicing. Manny got a pass for refusing. Marquez had Heredia with him in the 3rd fight but didn't KO Manny but rather fought a more cautious fight. Notice in the 4th how he went to the body more and took a lot more punishment to sit down more on his punches. Nowadays people who watch boxing act like they never saw a fighter get KO'd or can get KO'd? Manny wasn't invincible AND Marquez has always been the better fighter and showed it in all 4 fights.

[ShoulderRoll]

I'm not going to put my head in the sand and pretend there was nothing su****ious about the bout and I don't think anyone else who feels that way should either.

Marquez offered to do any stricter testing that they wanted. As long as Manny participated in the testing too.

If something shady went on don't you think that Pacquiao has only himself to blame? For not accepting Marquez' offer?

[ElPerroBigoton]

They both have the ability to Knock each other out.

Agreed, as brutal as the ko was, Pac was close to taking out Marquez. Im a Marquez fan but I don't hate Pac and I call it like I see it. Everytime they meet it could go either way.