There was a re-hydration clause, Cotto was drained

[Bushbaby]

I don't know why everyone keeps bring up that fight. It was years ago. Cotto wasn't at his best, he took the fight & got destroyed. $h!t happens.

However, 2012 does make Pacman/Cotto & everything about that match-up seem suspect. I find it to be obvious that Pacman won't fight Miguel Cotto healthy. That has to say a lot about this particular match-up, if we're being honest.

[boliodogs]

You really dont understand the weight process , what your saying is Cotto could come any weight he wanted into the ring , yes thats true , and so could ODH yet he could only gain 2 lbs via IV fluids , you getting the weight drained picture yet ?

When a fighter trains to be at a certain weight thats lighter than he normally goes at , he must work around a certain body weight (mass) through camp , Oscar , Cotto and Margo all would have worked with less body mass throughout camp knowing they had to make a light weight , body mass is what holds the water , less mass means less water , means less weight , which also means less de-rehydration scale from dry to wet . .

You getting your head around it yet ? to understand the bodys balancing act regarding hydration you need to look outside of this forum .

I was on the army boxing team and I fought at 156 to which was as low as I could go and stay strong. I had to make that weight 10 different times and I always weighed in hungry and thirsty. I understand training and weight making because I have lived it. The next weight up was 165 and I would be fighting taller stronger guys. I would come in the ring at about 161 and feeling good. We only had about 8 hours between the weigh in and the fight. I don't think you have any secret knowledge that the rest of us don't have. I was not even talking about what your talking about. I was just telling the guy there was no re-hydration clause. Of course I know you can't gain muscle mass in 30 hours. Doesn't everybody? Please tell me how you think the fights with Margarito and Oscar would have gone if Pacquiao had fought them at 154. How do you think the Cotto fight would have gone at the full 147? By the way Oscar asked for 147 so he could claim the pfp tittle if he won.He had trouble because he was under 147 for days before the fight which is not the proper way to make a low weight. Oscar screwed up. Don't blame a catchweight on Pacquiao when Oscar insisted on a weight of 147. Get your facts straight.

[shade darkar]

According to the fight contract, the Puerto Rican will be fined $1 million for every pound in excess of 145 lbs., The Philippine Star reported. Moreover, if Cotto goes a fraction beyond 147 lbs., Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, reportedly said he would call off the bout.


Cotto couldn't come in above 147. That is draining and you cannot deny it.

Which makes sense now, he came in 146 against Clottey and ate and drank that night and re-hydrated so he was normal Cotto.

In the Pacquiao fight he could only hydrate 2 lbs or Roach would call off the fight he was Zombie Cotto.

hahaha thick as fcuk you.

do you really think cotto was 147 fight night?

roach would have called the fight off if he weighed in at more than 147, not that he couldnt rehydrate after the weigh in you genuine mong.

[shade darkar]

I don't know why everyone keeps bring up that fight. It was years ago. Cotto wasn't at his best, he took the fight & got destroyed. $h!t happens.

However, 2012 does make Pacman/Cotto & everything about that match-up seem suspect. I find it to be obvious that Pacman won't fight Miguel Cotto healthy. That has to say a lot about this particular match-up, if we're being honest.

i take it cotto was not "healthy" when he beat clottey aswell.

[boliodogs]

The amateur weights have been changed around since I was on the army boxing team in 1966. The next weight down from 156 was 147 I think. I could never have made that weight. I could have gone to 154 and still be alright. The pictures of Cotto at the weigh in for the Pacquiao show a very muscular healthy looking Cotto. I don't think he was drained at all. The 154 pound Cotto of today is a bit fat for a boxer in my opinion.

[~AK49~]

Whether the extra pound of cutting affected cotto negatively remains to be seen. When you are in tremendous shape, drained and low bodyfat, and still need to lose an extra pound....somethings gotta go. To what degree it affected cotto, idunno. I just know what affected him most was his poor gameplanning.

With that said, onto the undeniable fact. there is one, and only one, reason why pacquiao did, and still does, demand a catcgweight from cotto

[DARKSEID]

I read the whole article.. I didnt see anything about a re-hydration clause.

All I saw was if cotto came above 145 at the weigh in, that he would be fined.

****** thread. Plus did Cotto look drained to anybody?

[Bushbaby]

i take it cotto was not "healthy" when he beat clottey aswell.

1st off, I do not think Cotto won that fight.

2ndly, are you trying to imply that training to 147 is the same as training down to 145??

[shade darkar]

1st off, I do not think Cotto won that fight.

2ndly, are you trying to imply that training to 147 is the same as training down to 145??

no, il make it easier for you

do you think cotto was drained for his fight with clottey?

yes or no???

[WESS]

According to the fight contract, the Puerto Rican will be fined $1 million for every pound in excess of 145 lbs., The Philippine Star reported. Moreover, if Cotto goes a fraction beyond 147 lbs., Pacquiao’s trainer, Freddie Roach, reportedly said he would call off the bout.


Cotto couldn't come in above 147. That is draining and you cannot deny it.

Which makes sense now, he came in 146 against Clottey and ate and drank that night and re-hydrated so he was normal Cotto.

In the Pacquiao fight he could only hydrate 2 lbs or Roach would call off the fight he was Zombie Cotto.

That was because Cotto had trouble making WW, which is exactly why he moved up to JMW. Roach knew this. It is the EXACT reason why Team Pac let Hoya fight at 147 but demanded that Cotto had to cut weight. They knew.....

All this was validated in the fact that Pac demanded a weight stipulations in a rematch with Cotto. Then again, rumor is that Pac had no problem with the weight but that it was the extra testing that Cotto demanded....