Im sorry Old school fighters are not automatically the best

[dan_cov]

Jake Lamotta is remembered as a brawler but most people that feel that way only ever saw the movie Raging Bull or only saw the St.Valentine's day Massacre....LaMotta had waay more skill than Rios....Lamotta was a good counterpuncher, could brawl, could swarm and spoil...had a way better defense than given credit for, he slipped punches and rolled with them very well.....people need to watch fighters and make their own opinions based on what they have witnessed not what someone else has said

I've seen him fight, I have DVDs, videos with footage of the guy.
He just wasn't very good, the guy could just take an absolute pasting like so can Soto Karrass but you don't see me going on like Karrass is an ATG, a HOFer etc

He really isn't good, coordinated or anything.
Hes like an obese guy whose just started out. I respect he was one of the pioneers & what have you but if you'd of mentioned the word ''jab'' to him he'd of probably stuck his chin out
He was no boxer, he was a damn caveman.

[Roman Moreno]

[SpeedKillz]

like with any sport, the newer generations will be faster, stronger, and smarter. thats just human evolution fellas. In any sport in the world, athletes have gotten much much better in their respective sports. with advancements in technologies and new science concerning optimal nutrition and supplements (not roids) that enhances athletes, no one can argue that old time fighters are better than current fighters. this is not always the case obviously, and some older fighters certainly would shlt on alot of current fighters, but the generalization that old school fighters were far better than any fighters out now is just silly. the same thing will be said about these fighters being better now than fighters in 30-40 years from now. its a circle that keeps on spinning. just cause the old time fighters had more grit and passion, does not make them better techincally sound fighters, and more of the current greats of today, would undoubtedly be able to not only compete with old school greats, but take them to school as well. theres exceptions to every rule though, so this is a silly debate and based more off opinion than actual fact. but its still fun to discuss it nevertheless...

[therealpugilist]

Man youre wasting your time, these idiots started watching boxing since May/DLH.

you know I have been feeling that way a longtime on here....the rest just started after Pacquaio/Barrera 1

[IronDanHamza]

young kids.son im 30 damn years old and this is far from my first era.see this is what i mean when you disagee with the posters who have old ass avi's they assume you are young and new to the sport..id bet my life you have never even set foot in a boxing gym before yet along actually sparred or had a fight...i dont agree with you and think you are wrong son....................those old school fighters 90 percent of the time look like hot **** ive seen 10 year olds with better coordination

I know you're not a child. You act like a child, but you're not a child.

But, this is your first era though. It's obvious. And that's fine.

Old ass Avi's? It's in colour so that's ok. Isn't it? What's my Avi have to do with anything? Is it a crime to like fighters from the 60's? The 60's is my favourite era of Boxing.

When you say "Old school", how far back are we going?

Because accoridng to you, Whitaker is an "old school fighter" Which further confirms you are new to Boxing. Which again, is fine.

You shouldn't be so ignorant, though.

[Tamis!]

If the boxers of today can contend with 15 full rounds and same-day weigh ins then schizo Larry has a point.

[The Big Dunn]

Ok.

But still, where in his post did he say they are better or would win because they are older?

I can't see it.

By saying they beat fighters who do it"just as well as floyd and manny do"? Well which fighters are these exactly?

I saw your other posts. Why would you have a problem if someone saw and old tape of an SRR and didn't come away awe struck?

On this board especially people are always saying watch this or check this video out. So posters are supposed to take a 5 min self made video or even a tape of a whole fight , watch it, and then they have to come away with the same feeling as you or they don't know anything?

Irondan you know exactly what the point is here. Some of the NSB illuminati make it seem you can't possibly know the sport if you don't reach the same conclusion. Then when they can't refute your argument, its the usual BS.

[VapeRippa]

young kids.son im 30 damn years old and this is far from my first era.see this is what i mean when you disagee with the posters who have old ass avi's they assume you are young and new to the sport..id bet my life you have never even set foot in a boxing gym before yet along actually sparred or had a fight...i dont agree with you and think you are wrong son....................those old school fighters 90 percent of the time look like hot **** ive seen 10 year olds with better coordination

Lmao, if you would actually stepped inside the ropes like a real man you wouldnt be talking **** about old school fighters and you would actually respect them.

I would kill to spar with you and smoke the ish out of you, then when you come at me with post concussion syndrome being really humble trying to shake my hand, I would smack the taste out of your mouth for being such a btch.

[therealpugilist]

I've seen him fight, I have DVDs, videos with footage of the guy.
He just wasn't very good, the guy could just take an absolute pasting like so can Soto Karrass but you don't see me going on like Karrass is an ATG, a HOFer etc

He really isn't good, coordinated or anything.
Hes like an obese guy whose just started out. I respect he was one of the pioneers & what have you but if you'd of mentioned the word ''jab'' to him he'd of probably stuck his chin out
He was no boxer, he was a damn caveman.

cant agree with you, to eachs own

[IronDanHamza]

you posted this rubbish

Great logic.

They're ATG's so that means they can be "the best of the best in any damn era"

Does it? Is that what it means to be an ATG?

Because I'll tell you now, if Pacquaio and Mayweather were in Hearns and Leonard's WW Era then they wouldn't be "The best of the best"

Being an ATG doesn't mean you can be the best of the best in any era. Do you know how ****** that sounds?

Please breakdown where and how in that post I have stated, or even implied, that Pacquaio or Mayweather won't be ATG's in any era.