Does a prime George Foreman KO a prime Vitali Klitschko?

[LacedUp]

It's funny to me how old timers like to hark on "skills" over "athleticism" as a go to for why older fighters would win, but completely suspend this belief when it comes to a young George Foreman. Foreman was garbage. He had an embarrassing skill set. His success in the 70s was based on overwhelming smaller men with physicality. Vitali would land right hands on Foreman at will and mop the floor with him.

What an unbelievable uneducated post.

I bet you are one of those guys who's seen the Ali fight and nothing else. Foreman had a decent skills level and wasn't as slow as some make him out to be. He won the Olympics as an amateur and went 40-0 against some of the greatest fighters this world has ever seen.

And beat up smaller guys? Dude are you serious? The margins between Foreman and his opponents are A LOT smaller than the margin between Vitali and his opponents.

[LacedUp]

Impossible, because unlike you, my a55 is still in shape and doesn't weight 20 lbs.

Do you honestly think you are objective and fair when it comes to the Klitschko's?

Think about it for a minute and actually answer honestly.

Then when the answer is a resounding NO!, tell us why.

The real reason, not the BS one you try and give about their fans being delusional, etc...etc...

Do you think you are?

[The Big Dunn]

Lack of talent in the division is not the problem, it's the fact that the Klitschko's make the talent seem pitiful.

Example: Deyontay Wilder won a bronze medal in the olympics, is a 4+ year unbeaten pro now and ten years Wlad's junior and would get absolutely obliterated by him if they were to fight.

That's the reality of the situation. The Klitschko's make the division seem weaker than it is. They have beaten all the American contenders basically, at least the ones who got the opportunity to face them.

Wilder is a bronze medalist. that means squat. he's also a bum. Tony thompson, aerreola, and bryant jennings are all better than him and they are not great. Povetkin was a gold medalist-he isn't much better.

The fact is the division is at one of its weakest points in history. Haye and ADamek have been the 2 most worthy challengers in recent years and they are blown up crusierweights.

Wlad is a 1st ballot hof'er no doubt. Vitali doesn't deserve HOF IMO but he will get in. That doesn't make their challenegrs any better than they are-putrid.

[Marcov]

70% BS!!!!

Foreman was 5-4 in title fights while Vitali is 15-2.

You draw your own conclusion.

Foreman would have been 17-0 if he got fight guys like Chambers, Mormeck, Austin and Brewster.

Start a poll Wlad against a prime Foreman.

[LacedUp]

70% BS!!!!

Foreman was 5-4 in title fights while Vitali is 15-2.

You draw your own conclusion.

Haha,

Yes, I'll draw my conclusions on the fact that Foreman fought Frazier, Norton, Ali, Roman, Holyfield, Morrison, Moorer, undefeated Briggs

whereas Vitali fought Hide, Mahone, Sullivan, Sanders, Williams, Peter, Fat old Briggs, Charr, Gomez, Sosnowski, Kevin johnson....

I think the conclusion is pretty easily made.

[Cardinal Buck]

What an unbelievable uneducated post.

I bet you are one of those guys who's seen the Ali fight and nothing else. Foreman had a decent skills level and wasn't as slow as some make him out to be. He won the Olympics as an amateur and went 40-0 against some of the greatest fighters this world has ever seen.

And beat up smaller guys? Dude are you serious? The margins between Foreman and his opponents are A LOT smaller than the margin between Vitali and his opponents.

You can't be serious. You clearly are uneducated about the sweet science if you think Foreman was a skilled fighter fighter in the 70s. He couldn't throw a straight punch or defend himself, and had a limited concept of footwork and (especially) pacing. This why Ali and Lyle made him look like a pinata and Young made him talk to God. Foreman wouldn't be s hit if he were Frazier's size.

[Drunken Cat]

Lack of talent in the division is not the problem, it's the fact that the Klitschko's make the talent seem pitiful.

Example: Deyontay Wilder won a bronze medal in the olympics, is a 4+ year unbeaten pro now and ten years Wlad's junior and would get absolutely obliterated by him if they were to fight.

That's the reality of the situation. The Klitschko's make the division seem weaker than it is. They have beaten all the American contenders basically, at least the ones who got the opportunity to face them.

Wilder is a pretty poor example. He's more an example of the lack of talent. He had only boxed 2 years when he won his medal meaning he is only on his 7th year of boxing period. The last American super heavyweight Olympian was a football player with little boxing experience. These are just large and athletic guys who can make it in the week division of today. They are not great boxers at all. Wilder will lose when he fights someone with reasonable boxing skill. These guys can't compare with the guys of Ali's era, it is obvious. Boxing use to be a mainstream sport and now it's not. You don't have kids picking up boxing at their local YMCA any more (like Holyfield for instance, the last great American heavyweight).

[Cardinal Buck]

Wilder is a pretty poor example. He's more an example of the lack of talent. He had only boxed 2 years when he won his medal meaning he is only on his 7th year of boxing period. The last American super heavyweight Olympian was a football player with little boxing experience. These are just large and athletic guys who can make it in the week division of today. They are not great boxers at all. Wilder will lose when he fights someone with reasonable boxing skill. These guys can't compare with the guys of Ali's era, it is obvious. Boxing use to be a mainstream sport and now it's not. You don't have kids picking up boxing at their local YMCA any more (like Holyfield for instance, the last great American heavyweight).

Wilder is a modern version of George Foreman. Parallels him perfectly.

[torosboxing75]

Prime Foreman should be able to KO him eventually

[LacedUp]

You can't be serious. You clearly are uneducated about the sweet science if you think Foreman was a skilled fighter fighter in the 70s. He couldn't throw a straight punch or defend himself, and had a limited concept of footwork and (especially) pacing. This why Ali and Lyle made him look like a pinata and Young made him talk to God. Foreman wouldn't be s hit if he were Frazier's size.

Yes I'm so uneducated about the sweet science. So he didn't throw straight punches? Have you seen any of Foreman's fights at all? Take a look at the Norton fight - Foreman, in the first alone, threw piston jabs, left uppercuts, straight rights and left and right hooks. He blocked punches and leaned back similar to Ali. Admittedly a bit of a cardinal sin in boxing, but it worked for him.

Now compare that to the Klitschko's jab-straight right. No bodyshots, no hooks, no uppercuts.

Neither Ali or Lyle made him look like a pinata as you call it. Both were equal fights up until both stoppages.