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If Cotto fought Tony the 1st time like he did the 2nd time, he would have won..

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    #41
    I don't think so.

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      #42
      If you saw the face-off and u still think he didn't cheat (like roger would say) "you don't know ***** about boxing"... Cottos team didn't have the best plan going into the fight, Plus, the plaster and constant pressure led to a late TKO by accumulation. Would've love to see them both back in 2008 fighting without plaster...

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        #43
        Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood View Post
        The eye problems changed everything. A 100% healthy Margarito would always beat Cotto.
        i kinda feeel the same way.

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          #44
          I don't want to see a rubber match. No need. Besides, too much damage to that eye. Marg shouldn't even be fighting anymore. He really doesn't care about his health. I think the way at all went down is the perfect way to avenge Cotto's loss.

          Marg will forever think..."just a couple more rounds, dam it"...lol. What Cotto was doing to him in 9 rounds, Margo wasn't going to do anything else to win that fight. If anything Cotto might have permently damaged that eye. As it is, it recieved 81-82 shots. Rd 9, Cotto landed 50% of his shots, nice combos, landing more counting those hard jabs.

          Besides, Cotto won't give it to him. It could be sweeter only if Cotto ko'd Tony.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Jedi Vader View Post
            HBO should've got Margarito to take a lie detector test for their 24/7. Had he refused, that would've been as much confirmation as him failing the actual test.
            Mosley passed a lie detector test that he didn't cheat.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Fetta View Post
              the loaded gloves is not an excuse it is a proven fact that he cheated. Did he cheat for this fight, who knows but i dont see why he wouldnt have.
              Cotto can't see uppercuts...Tony's slow-motion as.s was landing TRIPPLE uppercuts.

              Plaster doesn't make you faster...

              Paul Williams must be a god to take all those plaster shots...not to mention all the other guys Tony didn't KO.

              I'm starting to look at Daniel Santos in a different light...lol

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                #47
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post

                Cotto had learned from the first fight, Marg doesn't learn.
                Exactly...Garcia was blasting Tony for following Cotto around like a puppy dog, urging him to cut off the ring, but no...Tony don't learn. He didn't even bother protecting his eye! Tony had quite a bit going for him early in his career, most dudes didn't want nothing to do with him.

                But ring smarts Tony never really had. Just a face first, come forward volume puncher, that's it.
                He didn't know how to box properly and never bothered to learn.

                Gacia kept telling Tony to cut off the ring. Tony doesn't know how. That's how he allowed Cotto to keep turning Tony to pot shot him with precise combos throughout the fight.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jazluvr View Post
                  Exactly...Garcia was blasting Tony for following Cotto around like a puppy dog, urging him to cut off the ring, but no...Tony don't learn. He didn't even bother protecting his eye! Tony had quite a bit going for him early in his career, most dudes didn't want nothing to do with him.

                  But ring smarts Tony never really had. Just a face first, come forward volume puncher, that's it.
                  He didn't know how to box properly and never bothered to learn.

                  Gacia kept telling Tony to cut off the ring. Tony doesn't know how. That's how he allowed Cotto to keep turning Tony to pot shot him with precise combos throughout the fight.
                  Cotto learns?....LOL

                  So why does he still get hit with the same shots over and over again?

                  Cotto is no smarter in the ring than Tony..

                  At least Tony knows how to pace himself.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop View Post
                    Cotto can't see uppercuts...Tony's slow-motion as.s was landing TRIPPLE uppercuts.
                    This fight was much different, wasn't it...Cotto didn't get trapped in the ropes, no vicious uppercuts like the 1st fight, Cotto stayed off the ropes, he kept moving laterally, turning tony, landing pricise combos, staying on the move to avoid getting pressured, even pressureing Tony, pushing him back.
                    So yeah, Cotto learned. (in response to your response to me about Cotto not learning)

                    What did Tony learn? He didn't even bother to protect his eye, he never learned to box properly, never learned good defense, he wouldn't listen to his corner screaming at him to STOP following Cotto around, to cut off the ring, Tony didn't learn that, Basically Tony didn't learn anything, or do anything different, but Cotto fought a completely different fight. Tony learned he lost the fight...
                    the end.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by King Jaffe Joffer View Post
                      We dont know if Tony had loaded gloves or not..
                      But if Cotto turned, stayed off the ropes and clinched like he did in the rematch he would have hung on for a decision imo..

                      So stop using loaded gloves as an excuse..

                      They are tied 1-1 as far as Im concerned..
                      Excuse? You telling me that after all his fights (47)
                      he decided to use plaster against Mosley only, please
                      a criminal will always be a criminal...you and the rest
                      of the Margarito public defenders are in denial...
                      he got caught with the murder weapon, so all his wins are suspect
                      Revenge was sweet

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