Erik Morales getting SHUTOUT by "Zahir Raheem"

[SCtrojansbaby]

You the one who mentioned your girl. I didn't bring her up. You the one who replied to my first. I never start off a conversation with you. Because, you barely on a level higher than yesir, HESZWHERWHATEVERHISNAMEIS, brother Jay. A level below of Turbo. This is why I don't start of a convo with you. Because, you do not know as much as you think you do.

And, yes because Roy being top 33 is already a stretch, it's already giving him the benefit of every doubt, just doing it more so cuz' of his skills and talent in his prime then his actual resume.

To say he is top 25 is skippin him over guys who have just deeper resumes who are greater.

lol Roy's resume is damn near impeccable 2 wins over prime ATGs Toney(Dominated) and Hopkins(borderline Dominant especially considering still 20 years later no one has come close to beating B-Hop as decisively) and the deepest resume in modern boxing

-Dominant over borderline ATG Virgil Hill,
-Dominant win over top 5 Heavyweight at the time Ruiz
-KO's 2x super middleweight champion Thulani Malinga who had arguable just beaten Chris Eubank and would go on and end Benn's reign a few years after
-Dominated future #1middleweight in the world Jorge Castro
-Dominated a past prime but still very good Mike McCallum like NO ONE had before
-KO'd Montell Griffin in the 1st round
-Dominated Julio Cesar Gonzalez first man to beat Dariusz the guy everybody bytched about Roy not fighting
-Dominated Reggie Johnson who beat Steve Collins another guy everybody bytched about Roy not fighting
Not to mention Vaca Tate Harding and Sosa who would be top 10 wins for Whitaker or any other modern fighter not named Ali.

[Roman Moreno]

My bad, I DO have Charles in my top 20, I just posted the wrong one. I have him in place of where Dempsey was, I took Dempsey out awhile ago. A top 10? We'll have to disagree on that one. I disagree on Monzon and Tunney being greater than Roy. Tunney has those wins over Dempsey and Greb, sure but Dempsey was fighting for money at that point and he was more of a boxing figure than anything by the time they clashed. I mentioned Monzon who I believe is a definite 25-30 guy. Are you talking Jimmy McClarnin? No way.

McClarnin rise to weights and beating the fighters he did...He was the Pacquiao of his day but with a much better resume and accomplishments. Beat HOF'ers through divisions and beat top 50 ATG's in few instances.

[Roman Moreno]

lol Roy's resume is damn near impeccable 2 wins over prime ATGs Toney(Dominated) and Hopkins(borderline Dominant especially considering still 20 years later no one has come close to beating B-Hop as decisively) and the deepest resume in modern boxing

-Dominant over borderline ATG Virgil Hill,
-Dominant win over top 5 Heavyweight at the time Ruiz
-KO's 2x super middleweight champion Thulani Malinga who had arguable just beaten Chris Eubank and would go on and end Benn's reign a few years after
-Dominated future #1middleweight in the world Jorge Castro
-Dominated a past prime but still very good Mike McCallum like NO ONE had before
-KO'd Montell Griffin in the 1st round
-Dominated Julio Cesar Gonzalez first man to beat Dariusz the guy everybody bytched about Roy not fighting
-Dominated Reggie Johnson who beat Steve Collins another guy everybody bytched about Roy not fighting
Not to mention Vaca Tate Harding and Sosa who would be top 10 wins for Whitaker or any other modern fighter not named Ali.

Don't you think Virgil Hill is greater than Whitaker?

Whitaker>Roy.

[DLT]

lol Roy's resume is damn near impeccable 2 wins over prime ATGs Toney(Dominated) and Hopkins(borderline Dominant especially considering still 20 years later no one has come close to beating B-Hop as decisively) and the deepest resume in modern boxing

-Dominant over borderline ATG Virgil Hill,
-Dominant win over top 5 Heavyweight at the time Ruiz
-KO's 2x super middleweight champion Thulani Malinga who had arguable just beaten Chris Eubank and would go on and end Benn's reign a few years after
-Dominated future #1middleweight in the world Jorge Castro
-Dominated a past prime but still very good Mike McCallum like NO ONE had before
-KO'd Montell Griffin in the 1st round
-Dominated Julio Cesar Gonzalez first man to beat Dariusz the guy everybody bytched about Roy not fighting
-Dominated Reggie Johnson who beat Steve Collins another guy everybody bytched about Roy not fighting
Not to mention Vaca Tate Harding and Sosa who would be top 10 wins for Whitaker or any other modern fighter not named Ali.

youre an idiot who is not in depth in boxing, doesnt know any of the history, and isnt even worth talking too so the clown says. Only his opinion matters

[American Dream]

I don't care what you and American Dream are into.

And, neither of those guys are top 25. And, I mean 25, Turbo just shocked me with saying he had Roy in the top 20.

But, neither of those guys are 25. The history is too deep. And, if you think Floyd, B-Hop, and Roy that either or all 3 have a case. Then no, you don't know enough about the history of the sport. It is too deep too long for either of those guys. Top 50 yes they are, top 40 sure I can see that, top 30, No and the only one who comes close that maybe be able to get in the top 30 out of those 3 maybe...It's Roy Jones, that's it. Floyd and B-Hop are not top 30.

come on jro..you really gotta put me out there like that..if I wanted to announce "american dream" is a girl..id be like the others and broadcast it!
that was unnecessary..Ive been on this forum for a few years and only a few posters that I THOUGHT were cool know..and i dont even know for sure if this is jro, id like to think he'd not go that route..but regardless of if you care what im into...as a boxing fan, respect my opinions..I judge boxing..been to fights all my life..come from a family of boxers..for you to suggest If I put Bhop, RJJ, or Floyd in my top 25..means that I dont know boxing is laughable..everyone has a style they prefer..not everyone is caught up in the nostalgia of the older boxing era...

[turbotime]

McClarnin rise to weights and beating the fighters he did...He was the Pacquiao of his day but with a much better resume and accomplishments. Beat HOF'ers through divisions and beat top 50 ATG's in few instances.

Well, all lists are completely by opinion anyways. I respect anyone that knows about Ambers, McClarnin, Williams, etc.

[Roman Moreno]

shut your ho ass up. Everyone knows you and thinks your a clown who looks down on everyone who post. Youre not smarter then anyone. You aint ****. You sound like a petty snob in all of your post. Just like Pac is this highly skilled fighter, right? Then you changed up like a dumbass.

Your opinion isnt any better than anyone else on the site and when you get down off your high horse, maybe thats when you will become a credible poster. Not just some piss ass that has a sarcastic response to everyone because you think youre better or smarter then them when youre not. Point blank, period

Now we resort to lying and making up stuff.

Never thought Pac was "highly skilled" unless you're talking about that debate of who is/was more skilled Pac or Judah. And, I still believe Pac is more skilled than Judah. That doesn't equate to being "highly skilled" that just means he is more skilled than Judah. I have not changed that up at all.

Now if you're talking about where I rank Pac as an ATG. Sure that has changed.

Now STFU, go call your girl to debate for you. American Dream boxing knowledge over yours. She can actually talk boxing and make good points.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Don't you think Virgil Hill is greater than Whitaker?

Whitaker>Roy.

And you think Julio Cesar Vsquez>Bernard Hopkins?

[turbotime]

Don't you think Virgil Hill is greater than Whitaker?

Whitaker>Roy.

Don't waste your time. For whatever reason, he hates Pea.

[Roman Moreno]

And you think Julio Cesar Vsquez>Bernard Hopkins?

Nah, I thnk Circumstances going into the bout JC Vazquea>or=Ruiz.

I think JC Chavez>>>B-Hop. Whitaker dominated Chavez more so than what Roy did with B-Hop.

Nelson= or >Toney

We can keep going if you want.