Erik Morales getting SHUTOUT by "Zahir Raheem"

[Roman Moreno]

IDK about that. I think you could easily have atleast one of those guys in the top 25

No you really can not. It is blasphemy to consider either of those guys in the top 25 ATG....BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!

[DLT]

No you really can not. It is blasphemy to consider either of those guys in the top 25 ATG....BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!

no its not. thats your opinion. everyone has one. where do you have them ranked then?

[Brother Jay]

Raheem was better at 135, yes. That wasn't what I asked.

I know bro, but until you and others actually start evaluating Morales and Barrera by the standard of rank and quality of opposition, you don't really get to make requests.

None of you have addressed the shit that I've written pages back. No one, not even you as much as I like what you write most of the time, gets to gloss over what I write and then ask for your own points to be addressed.

Rank
Quality of opposition
Last win they were coming off of
What happened during the fight

Anyone refusing to use that standard isn't a fan. They are FANBOYS.

If you see me fanboying it up over ANYONE, please feel free to call me out too, my man.

[intoccabile]

Morales was credited for saying he took the fight because " He never fought a "slick" fighter, and wanted to test himself against a new style ". This is what lampley said during the first round, quoting El Terrible.

This fight was evidence that Styles make fights. This is the very reason why when arguing PBF vs Pacman I like to think that PBF has a huge edge - because not fighting against a certain style your entire career even in sparring seriously does make you that much worse against it when it presents itself. But we will never know, and I'm fine with that too.

[Roman Moreno]

Don't kill me JRo but I have Jones in my top 20 ATG fighters.

I don't think Roy can even rank in the top 30 let alone the top 20. Too many great fighters throughout history that accomplished more and had a better resume. I think I can name easily name 20 greater fighters off the top of my head.

[RoidRage]

What a ******ed azz thread

Morales was washed up after back to back WARS against Barrera and Pacquiao IN LESS THAN FOUR MONTHS then he moved up in weight to fight Raheem

Think is if Morales had an off night and BARELY lost to Raheem thats 1 thing, but he lost almost EVERY round and Raheem wasn't even that good.

GREAT FIGHTERS DON'T LOSE 5 OUT OF 6 FIGHTS WHEN THEIR NOT EVEN OLD.

Morales was lucky to fight in those small weak divisions. You clowns were NUT HUGGING Morales way back in 05 calling him "great" before he even fought Pacquiao, just because he had great fights with Barrera.

Erik Morales best win was PRE-ROID Pacquiao.

[Roman Moreno]

no its not. thats your opinion. everyone has one. where do you have them ranked then?

It's blasphemy...

And, for you to be so vague and say that at least one of those guys can be in the top 20. They you word it, you're insinuating that all 3 of those guys have a case to be in the top 20. And, that's just laughable. That's just as check hooks post.

To really believe that either of those guys can be in the top 20. Is not really knowing the history of the sport. Is not really having depth in that area.

[Roman Moreno]

HE HAD A 13 WIN STREAK AGAINST WHO ?? WHAT FIGHTERS??? AND REGARDLESS HE HAD JUST GOT THE "VACANT' TITLE AND LOST IT AFTER X1 DEFENSE. Keep it real you didnt even know who Guty Espadas Jr was before tonight hence it took you forever to respond, because ya went to wikipedia!!!!

What did he do after Morales beat him???

He beat Moises Perez x2 coming out of retriement in 2007.
Rocky Juarez whooped that ass back in 2004 2nd round KO TOO!!!
In 2003 he was knocked out by Morales too in a rematch. what else did he do ??

What makes him a champion???

LMAO





GOODNIGHT F@GS

P.S. I was asking you for his fourth title in his 4th division that he won last year that he made mexican history with. Hes the only fighter that has won titles in x4 divisions, nd it was again for a vacant title last year!!!

He was tied with Chavez, and then later barerra, but since last year he won his 4th!!! thats the lightweight title!! And he just lost it on the scales weeks ago!!!!!

****KIN FAIL!!!!

Lol at taking me so long to response. When I replied with why Morales is an ATG TWICE. The first one being pages and hours before you even responded. You're the one that took forever to respond.

Not sure why LW title you're talking about. But, if your whole argument that Morales isn't an ATG because of how he got 2 titles...Then I ask how did SRL get his 4th and 5th titles?

I already mentioned who had Guty Espadas Jr beaten going into the Morales bout. Tough outs in Espinosa, Kotey, and Sanchez. in that 13 win winning streak he had going into the Morales fight.

[DLT]

It's blasphemy...

And, for you to be so vague and say that at least one of those guys can be in the top 20. They you word it, you're insinuating that all 3 of those guys have a case to be in the top 20. And, that's just laughable. That's just as check hooks post.

To really believe that either of those guys can be in the top 20. Is not really knowing the history of the sport. Is not really having depth in that area.

lol.......I dont know the history? Ive been around boxing for years. I go to alot of fights. My girl is even deep in boxing.

I insinuated that different people have different opinions and for you to say its blashemy is foolish. Youre probably one of those guys who just hate on everythign in the present while overhyping everything from the past. Its different eras, plain & simple.

Also, we said top 25, not top 20 so stop moving the bar in every conversation. Nice way to come back, by putting someone down who you know nothing about. We have a difference of opinion.

Im not saying that any of those guys are in the top 25. My point is that you cant say that someonee who has one of them in there is an idiot but if you feel that way then thats how you feel. I dont

[SCtrojansbaby]

Morales was credited for saying he took the fight because " He never fought a "slick" fighter, and wanted to test himself against a new style ". This is what lampley said during the first round, quoting El Terrible.

This fight was evidence that Styles make fights. This is the very reason why when arguing PBF vs Pacman I like to think that PBF has a huge edge - because not fighting against a certain style your entire career even in sparring seriously does make you that much worse against it when it presents itself. But we will never know, and I'm fine with that too.

Dude style had absolutely nothing to do with Morales losing to Raheem. Morales was shot and moving up in weight that is why he lost how can you not see that?

Oh and I think Morales would have a decent chance at beating the ultimate "slick fighter" Floyd at 130. Its probable a 50/50 fight maybe Floyd edges Morales out 6 times out of 10 which says a lot considering Floyd is the naturally bigger fighter.