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    Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
    SRL beat guys like Hearns, Duran, Hagler. Who did Floyd beat? Haha...

    'nuff said. LOL.
    As I thought, you don't know much beyond boxrec, YouTube, and names you've heard. What was SRL's greatest single accomplishment, in your opinion?

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      Pac fans hate life

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        Originally posted by bMak View Post
        As I thought, you don't know much beyond boxrec, YouTube, and names you've heard. What was SRL's greatest single accomplishment, in your opinion?
        I'm cool with someone saying that Floyd is as talented as SRL. I might even agree. But, you can't prove it based on the people Floyd had beat. That's no dis on Mayweather. Just, his accomplishments aren't as heavy as Leonard's.

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          Originally posted by Roman Moreno View Post
          Yes Pac co-promotes his own fights. He is responsible for half of the cost of his events. He and gets paid as a promoter. He is a promoter. He also fighters signed to his promotional company. Not hurting my feelings at all. WTF are you even talking about?

          Matter of fact Turbo I think Brother Jay is the more of an idiot than ADPO2. They're just neck and neck.
          We are all aware of MP promotions. Its what Manny gets from that company that is the issue. He does NOT work at a promoters capacity for himself because PROMOTERS ACTUALLY GET PAID.

          Manny HAS THEE SHlTTIEST DEAL IN THE HISTORY OF MODERN BOXING. Its got to be a slave contract. How do you co-promote your own fights but let the man not doing the fighting take home the lion's share of the money?

          Not to mention the cut that Golden Boy gets from EVERY ONE of Manny's promotions.

          So again, if Manny wants a promoter's pay for a fight with Arum, he needs to get his money FROM ARUM, not Mayweather. Mayweather isn't taking Manny's money. EVERYONE ELSE IS!!

          Why pretend as though its Manny's money that Floyd wants to keep?

          That's exactly what YOU'RE doing by saying that Floyd should give Manny something. Floyd isn't Manny's boss or promoter. Floyd shouldn't have to give up his portion so that Manny can finally get his own portion.

          What sense does that even make?

          How is it not clear that Arum is the reason that Manny is not getting 50%? Why can't Manny broker the same deal that Floyd did to get his own 50%?

          They both were promoted by Bob Arum. They both are cash cows. How is it that it falls on Floyd's shoulders to give Manny what Arum is denying him?

          If Floyd has that much clout to deny Manny Pacquiao what he's worth, then Pacquiao never deserved it in the first place.

          Let's be real.

          Floyd isn't pricing himself out of the fight. He's simply not willing to make up the difference for what Arum is pocketing.

          Are you a Manny Pacquiao fan? Then tell him to leave Arum out of his negotiations with Floyd and get his 50% on his own. Leaving Arum out would be Pacquiao actually EARNING his 50%.

          Pacquiao just hasn't realized that he's a proven commodity now. Arum's services are not needed. He's a star now and doesn't need the promotion that Arum offers at the price Arum offers it.

          The problem is figuring out what kind of GI JOE kung fu grip Arum has on Pacquiao's sack that prevents him from being his own man!

          Maybe you support that kind of dumb shit as you are a fcuking idiot, but no real fan would ask Floyd to make up the difference.

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            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            - Marquez vs Manny ... I had said that Manny shouldn't have bothered fighting ... Like I told you the other day, I call it the way I see it even if its Manny!

            but they do have history at the lower weights so there was a reason .... all Marquez had to do is to adjust to 144 because he knows that he has the style to fight Manny .... plus Manny came in at 143 ... Floyd was heavier.

            - Hatton was a career 140 fighter and never looked good at 147 ... So to fight at 147 ... the pattern ....

            - Floyd said that he was fighting Cotto because he couldn't get a deal with Manny and Canelo!

            - The fight with Cotto made sense at the end of 2007 or 2008 not 2005 ... ask anyone!


            Floyd only came 4 pounds heavier then Marquez on fight night and Floyd did not use his weight to beat Marquez he used his skills.And this same Marquez beat Pacquiao but Pacquiao got a gift.

            Floyd was career 130 he lost his punching power moving up.Hatton struggled at 147 against Collazo cause Collazo is not one of those bums hatton is use to fighting and Collazo is not slow.He`s a slick Southpaw whose fast.

            I`m aware that Floyd said he tried to get Pacquiao and Canelo and he could`nt so he chose Cotto next but Floyd in a interview on ESNews said he does`nt want to fight Canelo unless he gets some big wins.



            And the fight was in high demand from Fans ever since 2005.Floyd is not waiting for fighters to make up their mind on when they want to fight him.Cotto,Mosley and Oscar took long to make up their mind on when they want to fight Floyd.

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              Back in 04-05 before Floyd was on pay per view, Cotto and Hatton turned him down at 140 only Gatti had the balls to face Floyd.

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                I don't think any reasonable boxing fan would think Mayweather ducked Cotto, The fight just didn't happen due to different reasons, Now that both are the master of their respective castle they came together and made the fight easily.

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                  Originally posted by Slightly Dazed View Post
                  I'm cool with someone saying that Floyd is as talented as SRL. I might even agree. But, you can't prove it based on the people Floyd had beat. That's no dis on Mayweather. Just, his accomplishments aren't as heavy as Leonard's.
                  Completely different discussion. I posed that question to the other dude because I want to hear what he says. I don't think he knows much more than what he's heard.

                  You can't prove anything based on accomplishments not because of who thu fought, but because they fought in different eras. Things change in sports, so many different variables.

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                    Originally posted by memento126 View Post
                    Back in 04-05 before Floyd was on pay per view, Cotto and Hatton turned him down at 140 only Gatti had the balls to face Floyd.
                    Well all three didn't really want to fight him at that time, Cotto wasn't ready at that time for someone like Mayweather, Hatton's Promoter Warren would never put Hatton in a competitive fight at that time when he can milk the Tsyzu win by fight his usual bums and lightweights in Manchester and main event tried everything to delay Gatti from fighting Mayweather.

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                      but Cotto lives too far in Puerto Rico.

                      Puto Floyd ducked Cotto.

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