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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostReally dude. This is what you think I'm saying.
I'm saying its manny's fault he turned down a very fair deal in dec 2009. Since he turned that deal down, to expect to get the same deal 30 months later is ridiculous.Last edited by Deevel916; 03-14-2012, 03:43 PM.
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Originally posted by PACsmash View PostI'm explaining to u what u asked me! if Marquez and cotto went and fought someone else and won all their fights then comes back and try to work out a deal with PAC then yes whatever money split they agreed on before should still be the same this is basing off if they won all their fights since turning down pac's offer. now I asked u again have PAC lost since the deal breaker between floyd? Again PAC went and did everything just as good if not PAC was able to rack in more money so how is Floyd demanind for more makes any sense? This is the second time I'm asking u this with no answer.
Manny turned down a great offer in dec 2009 in the hopes a better one would come. He made a mistake. The better offer never came. Now in 2012 he wants that deal again because it's fair. If its fair now it was fair then.
Manny isn't so special that he should get another chance at the same deal. If you feel he is so be it. Its manny's fault he turned down a fair deal. You think its floyd's fault for not offering it again.
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Test them all! Pretty sure Floyd would say ok not so sure about Pac. After all he was the one saying no with tons of excuses but whatever this is old and recycled from others already saying this like a year ago. Why bring it up now?
Noticed that Roach says something about Pac v Bradley and no one cares but he mentions Floyd and over 200 posts. This has more posts than Pac sticky for his fight. Does Roach now hes fighting?
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Originally posted by Deevel916 View PostOnce again....what deal did he turn down? Both sides couldnt agree on a cutoff date therefore they both moved on. Its not as if Pac flat out refused to test. The money split wasnt an issue in 09. The testing cutoff date was.
what I bolded is your way of deflecting responsibility from manny. He rejected the deal and flat out refused testing. If you are not man enough to admit it fine with me.
He changed his mind months later and said ok. Well guess what, too ****ing late and too ****ing bad. If it was a fair deal in dec 09 its a fair deal now. It was on the table then, its not on the table now. thats the difference.
if the deal is ever on the table again in the future , I suggest manny take it and not procrastinate.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View Postwins and losses have nothing to do with revenue generation. Yes manny's position has improved, but so has floyd's. you keep forgetting this. so manny not losing doesn't change the fact floyd is still the bigger revenue generator. But that is off the subject.
Manny turned down a great offer in dec 2009 in the hopes a better one would come. He made a mistake. The better offer never came. Now in 2012 he wants that deal again because it's fair. If its fair now it was fair then.
Manny isn't so special that he should get another chance at the same deal. If you feel he is so be it. Its manny's fault he turned down a fair deal. You think its floyd's fault for not offering it again.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI really don't think anyone from Pacquaio's camp has a leg to stand on in terms of demanding drug tests.
Considering they refused to agree to better testing for multiple years.
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Another thing u stand by this no 50/50 but before floyd mention it I didn't see any of this from u? So if u really feel that Floyd deserve more how come u never made that clear from the start until Floyd came out and said it? Before it was if manny is clean then take the test, yes or no?
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostReally dude. This is what you think I'm saying.
I'm saying its manny's fault he turned down a very fair deal in dec 2009. Since he turned that deal down, to expect to get the same deal 30 months later is ridiculous.
so what fair deal should pac have gotten today? you claimed the 40mil-noppv-share offer by floyd wasn't fair and pac rightfully declined.
but wait, pac made a counter offer. 50mil and blahblah, i forgot the details. and also sent koncz to offer 45-45 with the 10% to the winner when the first offer got turned down. thats what i called wanting the fight and negotiating a reasonable realistic offer.
what did floyd do? nothing. did he make a counter offer that's reasonable, at least to you flomos? none. he just said no one gets 50-50. but did he offer any details, to make it even seem he wanted the fight? NO.
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Originally posted by Twako View Postthe great floyd apologist in action.
so what fair deal should pac have gotten today? you claimed the 40mil-noppv-share offer by floyd wasn't fair and pac rightfully declined.
but wait, pac made a counter offer. 50mil and blahblah, i forgot the details. and also sent koncz to offer 45-45 with the 10% to the winner when the first offer got turned down. thats what i called wanting the fight and negotiating a reasonable realistic offer.
what did floyd do? nothing. did he make a counter offer that's reasonable, at least to you flomos? none. he just said no one gets 50-50. but did he offer any details, to make it even seem he wanted the fight? NO.
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