SMH @ Freddie. Roach "How about we drug test Floyd every month"

[Larry the boss]

I really don't think anyone from Pacquaio's camp has a leg to stand on in terms of demanding drug tests.

Considering they refused to agree to better testing for multiple years.

yep.......................

[The Big Dunn]

Why shouldn't he? Remember take the test we gotta fight? Manny turn the ost request down. Both Floyd and manny couldnt come to an agreement on the cut off date. Everything else was agreed on, why should it change now?

Because of the passage of time dude. You saying manny and floyd couldn't agree is not really what happened. Manny turned down the deal is really what happened. You can't expect to reject a deal and get the same one later.

Lets take floyd out of this. You think Manny is gonna offer Cotto the same amount for the rematch since Miguel turned him down to fight floyd this time? Or, you think JMM is gonna fight Manny a fourth time for the same amount as the 3rd time?

[Deevel916]

Because of the passage of time dude. You saying manny and floyd couldn't agree is not really what happened. Manny turned down the deal is really what happened. You can't expect to reject a deal and get the same one later.Lets take floyd out of this. You think Manny is gonna offer Cotto the same amount for the rematch since Miguel turned him down to fight floyd this time? Or, you think JMM is gonna fight Manny a fourth time for the same amount as the 3rd time?

Since that time, Pac has outsold Floyd on ppv's and has even sweetened the deal for Floyd. Full OSDT instead of a cutoff date. How do you figure Pac is asking for the same deal?

[PACsmash]

Because of the passage of time dude. You saying manny and floyd couldn't agree is not really what happened. Manny turned down the deal is really what happened. You can't expect to reject a deal and get the same one later.

Lets take floyd out of this. You think Manny is gonna offer Cotto the same amount for the rematch since Miguel turned him down to fight floyd this time? Or, you think JMM is gonna fight Manny a fourth time for the same amount as the 3rd time?

Dunn read slowly, manny turn down the ost cut off date. Everything else was agreed upon. Are u missing something here? I can understand if both team never sat down and negotiatiate but they did and they agreed on eveything else but the cut off. If anything that should be change its the cut off why should the rest be changed? Not unless u don't want this fight? remember take the test we gotta fight??

I dont recall Floyd saying anythin else but take the test and we gotta fight. Did Floyd think PAC wasn't going to call floyds bluff? And when PAC actually did now all of a sudden no 50/50 and no ppv. How come none of this was brought up?? According to some of u guys PAC have been ducking Floyd for over 2yrs now. How come I didnt hear anything from Floyd about no 50/50 and no ppv until ost was no longer an issue.?

[thuggery]

wow roach is still concerned about drug tests?

what is this dude hiding?

[The Big Dunn]

Since that time, Pac has outsold Floyd on ppv's and has even sweetened the deal for Floyd. Full OSDT instead of a cutoff date. How do you figure Pac is asking for the same deal?

Pac didn't sweeten deal, he realized his stance was completely ridiculous, especially since both fighters took tests, and all of floyd's other opponents took test with no problems. And floyd said "0 days cutoff"

Pac wants 50/50, no cutoff etc, same deal as was in place dec 2009.

I'm not sure how selling more ppv's your last 3 fights changes the dynamic. That said, come June 10th that won't be true.

[Deevel916]

Pac didn't sweeten deal, he realized his stance was completely ridiculous, especially since both fighters took tests, and all of floyd's other opponents took test with no problems. And floyd said "0 days cutoff"

Pac wants 50/50, no cutoff etc, same deal as was in place dec 2009.

I'm not sure how selling more ppv's your last 3 fights changes the dynamic. That said, come June 10th that won't be true.

Innacurate. Pac wanted a 24 day cutoff back in 09. He then went down to 14 days which is what Floyd was offering before taking that off the table.

Now he's willing to do full OSDT with NO cutoff. Isnt this what Floyd was saying needed to be done in order to get the fight done?

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn read slowly, manny turn down the ost cut off date. Everything else was agreed upon. Are u missing something here? I can understand if both team never sat down and negotiatiate but they did and they agreed on eveything else but the cut off. If anything that should be change its the cut off why should the rest be changed? Not unless u don't want this fight? remember take the test we gotta fight??

I dont recall Floyd saying anythin else but take the test and we gotta fight. Did Floyd think PAC wasn't going to call floyds bluff? And when PAC actually did now all of a sudden no 50/50 and no ppv. How come none of this was brought up?? According to some of u guys PAC have been ducking Floyd for over 2yrs now. How come I didnt hear anything from Floyd about no 50/50 and no ppv until ost was no longer an issue.?

The rest is changed because manny didn't just reject OST, he rejected the whole deal. If you expect everything to be the same other than OST then you are being delusional. It has nothing to do with wanting the fight.

So if I am understanding your point you think that floyd, once manny rejected the deal, should keep that same deal in place to manny accepts it, no matter how long it takees manny to do so? Is that reasonable?

You forgot to answer if you think Manny is gonna offer Cotto the same amount for the rematch since Miguel turned him down to fight floyd this time? Or, you think JMM is gonna fight Manny a fourth time for the same amount as the 3rd time?

[The Big Dunn]

Innacurate. Pac wanted a 24 day cutoff back in 09. He then went down to 14 days which is what Floyd was offering before taking that off the table.

Now he's willing to do full OSDT with NO cutoff. Isnt this what Floyd was saying needed to be done in order to get the fight done?

Floyd did say that 2 years ago. If you expect everything to be the same now you are being delusional. It's like manny can take as long as he wants to agree. GTFO! Coupons don't last a lifetime dude.

So if I am understanding your point you think that floyd, once manny rejected the deal, floyd should keep that same deal in place until manny accepts it, no matter how long it takes manny to do so? Is that reasonable?

[DeadLikeMe]

Floyd did say that 2 years ago. If you expect everything to be the same now you are being delusional. It's like manny can take as long as he wants to agree. GTFO! Coupons don't last a lifetime dude.

So if I am understanding your point you think that floyd, once manny rejected the deal, floyd should keep that same deal in place until manny accepts it, no matter how long it takes manny to do so? Is that reasonable?

They're Pinoy...Nothing Manny could do will ever be wrong in their eyes because he is more than an athlete or celebrity over there, he is a God. They have nationally mandated prayer the day after his fights, where they pray to God to thank him for Manny. Floyd could rescue their mothers from a burning building and they would come on here saying Floyd tried to **** their mom and set fire to her house.