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Where do you rank Manny Pacquiao on the GOAT list???

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    #61
    In terms of all time ranking, its difficult to place anyone because of nostalgia, favoritism and different time periods


    But Pac is most definitely the greatest fighter of his era [1998-present]

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      #62
      Originally posted by Toyman View Post
      In terms of all time ranking, its difficult to place anyone because of nostalgia, favoritism and different time periods

      But Pac is most definitely the greatest fighter of his era [1998-present]
      Of couse Pac is!. Little kids today with ambitions of going into boxing on the condition that they can one day be the greatest may have second thoughts if they achieve as much as Pac and still not be considered top 10, let alone the greatest so how deflating would that be?

      Achieving what Floyd has done may seem achieveable to younsters with ideas of becoming pro, with 4 or 5 division champ. But to achieve what Pac has done may seem a bit beyond kids today, and even if they do, there is no garantees of acclaim.

      So Pac musts be made an example of. He is the GOAT, the yardstick.

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        #63
        #31-#40 for me.

        Floyd is around there, too.

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          #64
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Of couse Pac is!. Little kids today with ambitions of going into boxing on the condition that they can one day be the greatest may have second thoughts if they achieve as much as Pac and still not be considered top 10, let alone the greatest so how deflating would that be?

          Achieving what Floyd has done may seem achieveable to younsters with ideas of becoming pro, with 4 or 5 division champ. But to achieve what Pac has done may seem a bit beyond kids today, and even if they do, there is no garantees of acclaim.

          So Pac musts be made an example of. He is the GOAT, the yardstick.
          Idk man I think it would be pretty easy to beat people up at catchweights

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            #65
            Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
            Idk man I think it would be pretty easy to beat people up at catchweights
            What does IDK mean? No its not easy to beat people at CWs or weight drained. People didnt beat Pac when he was weight drained, so why does Cotto have to be stopped?

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              #66
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              What does IDK mean? No its not easy to beat people at CWs or weight drained. People didnt beat Pac when he was weight drained, so why does Cotto have to be stopped?
              I don't know

              You don't think it would be easy to beat people up when they aren't at 100%?

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                #67
                Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
                I don't know

                You don't think it would be easy to beat people up when they aren't at 100%?
                Well i heard Pac say he was weight drained against JMM or something like that and Pac won. Why didnt JMM just knock pac out and make him look average?

                Cotto never said he wasnt at 100% when they fought. He said he confident of beating Pac, maybe because Cotto felt good at that weight. Weighing 145 would mean that Cotto trained hard. If you train hard you lose weight.
                At147 Cotto had difficulty with Clottey so i assume he would with Pac as well, Pac was just a league above cotto.

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                  #68
                  I think that when the dust settles and all the fanboism and hate is placed aside Pac will go down as Top 20 possibly Top 15. Even after he loses to Floyd(if it ever happens).

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by FJRod View Post
                    I think that when the dust settles and all the fanboism and hate is placed aside Pac will go down as Top 20 possibly Top 15. Even after he loses to Floyd(if it ever happens).
                    No, he will be higher, just too dominant for too long, since his wins over Morales and Co. for how many years is that? A whole career basically of 10 years nearly. He had a hiccup against Morales as well, but went on be the only man to stop him to this very day, so probably tells me he had a off night against Morales when he lost.
                    Only one fighter has given him any problems JMM, yet i think most people felt JMM was one punch away from being knocked out in all 3 fights, and if you wanted JMM to win, hoped he could survive really. Survival is the impression i get when watching fight Pac.
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 03-07-2012, 06:32 PM.

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                      #70
                      In comparative achievement, since he's done something that nobody has ever dreamed was possible, he has to rank # 1 jointly with, say Joe Louis who had an unbeatable 25 title defences.

                      In ability I'd rank him around 25-30, maybe even lower. There are too many top fighters out there from the past who are just too good to overlook.

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