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    Originally posted by mathed View Post
    Floyd was getting stuffed in the face and he leaned into a couple punches trying to be evasive. I didn't see Floyd smiling too much when he was shaking his head after Ortiz had him against the ropes.

    Floyd normally makes it out of fights with little to no direct punches really having landed on him so if he eats 24 solid punches the duration of a 12 round fight, that would be more than the majority of his fights. Most of the punches that hit Floyd are when he is turning and they slide right off of him.

    Floyd came away with the win, cong**** to him. Now go ask some random dude what he remembers most about the fight.......is he gonna comment on the punch stats or the fact that Floyd won in shady fashion? Regardless of what Floyd did in the ring, it's going to get overshadowed by how he won the fight.

    That's neither here nor there but the underlying thing to me is why did he do it? Of course anyone could say he was pissed about the head butt attempt but Ortiz already received his punishment from the ref. Aggression is not something that Floyd handles the best, standing in the center of the ring and boxing is Floyd's game.


    Just remember what I said about Floyd starting aggressive but backing off after the first couple exchanges. I could be wrong but I fully expect Cotto to present more than a tuneup in terms of challenge to Floyd.


    you sound like a discruntaled girlfriend. floyd dominated ortiz with FOOTWORK, which made ortiz back up for most of the fight. when ortiz came charging in floyd sized him up in rounds 1 and 2 then began check hooking him USING HIS FOOTWORK. floyd will dominate cotto with footwork, when your skill level is high the PACE slows down, cotto will have to think in the ring instead of just fighting. part of the reason why marquez beat pac was due to the BOXING FOOTWORK. cotto doesnt really have that and his punches are too wide. he may get gatti'd

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      Originally posted by freedom213 View Post
      I didnt claim it to be the reason I said it was a factor in the fight and it was. The reason Mosley lost that fight was because Mayweather was the superior fighter at the time they fought.
      Again i ask you, How was it a factor? Ive already stated that Floyd had the edge in jabs landed 69-40, throwing 240 to Oscar’s 246.

      So you are telling me Oscars 40 jabs was a factor in the fight?

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        Originally posted by .WaRCoTTo. View Post
        I'm not taking anything away from Mayweather, he probably hasn't been hit with more than 10 significant punches in his entire career. But why go from one extreme to another man?..I said he had "Horrible" footwork?..

        But yes, I think Mayweather at 35 isn't moving as much for a reason, he's becoming more dependent on his power and his combinations, as opposed to his shoulder roll, pot shot, lateral movement like before, might be opposition or might be age, but he's standing in there longer than usual.
        I agree with this in a sense but I feel that he is more confident in his power at this weight so there is no reason for him to waste energy boxing on his toes.

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          Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
          Ive watched boxing for a long time. And the question was "How is it possible for Cotto" to employ the strategy. Also how many fighters have you seen land JABS consistently vs Mayweather? He will pull counter him and time him easily.
          The only fighter I can think of that had success with the jab against mayweather in recent memory was delahoya and even he ate a few right hand counters.

          The thing I think a lot of people on here don't realize is that cotto, like delahoya is naturally left handed so his jab is stronger than most fighters and probably any other fighter mayweather has ever faced except delahoya. It was his jab Cotto used to drop Clottey in the first round of their fight.

          I think the jab can be effective against mayweahter as long as you move your head out of the way in anticipation of the right after you throw it.

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            Originally posted by .WaRCoTTo. View Post
            I'm not taking anything away from Mayweather, he probably hasn't been hit with more than 10 significant punches in his entire career. But why go from one extreme to another man?..I said he had "Horrible" footwork?..

            But yes, I think Mayweather at 35 isn't moving as much for a reason, he's becoming more dependent on his power and his combinations, as opposed to his shoulder roll, pot shot, lateral movement like before, might be opposition or might be age, but he's standing in there longer than usual.

            i think its the fact that after the oscar fight. FLOYD GOT BETTER, he started walking down his opponents more and getting better at cutting off the ring to be more efficent with the use of his footwork. kinda how mike developed the fadeaway. floyd walked down marquez, shane, vic, i see him doing the same thing against against cotto. fyi floyd handled vic ortiz and dude weighed 167 on fight night which is ridic

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              Originally posted by rrsports03 View Post
              The only fighter I can think of that had success with the jab against mayweather in recent memory was delahoya and even he ate a few right hand counters.

              The thing I think a lot of people on here don't realize is that cotto, like delahoya is naturally left handed so his jab is stronger than most fighters and probably any other fighter mayweather has ever faced except delahoya. It was his jab Cotto used to drop Clottey in the first round of their fight.

              I think the jab can be effective against mayweahter as long as you move your head out of the way in anticipation of the right after you throw it.
              There are no special effects when it comes to Cotto. We all know his best punch is his left hook to the body or the head & thats pretty much where his arsenal ends. Mayweather already is aware of this and will have Cottos best weapon nullified early in the fight. Once Cottos left hand is taken away from him, the fight is over.

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                Originally posted by hbonnie21 View Post
                i think its the fact that after the oscar fight. FLOYD GOT BETTER, he started walking down his opponents more and getting better at cutting off the ring to be more efficent with the use of his footwork. kinda how mike developed the fadeaway. floyd walked down marquez, shane, vic, i see him doing the same thing against against cotto. fyi floyd handled vic ortiz and dude weighed 167 on fight night which is ridic
                Cotto will weigh 165+ on fight night as well.

                I've always liked Mayweather, he's actually my 8 year old son's idol (smh he's gonna be all in my face May 5th) I know he's going to pick Cotto apart round by round, but I do believe it's got a lot to do with ring age, he's been doing this for over 15 years professionally, no way does he get on his toes and move around the ring like he did in the mid 2000's, but like you mentioned, he doesn't need to. His hands are holding up well, they don't get hurt anymore and he can pound away pretty solid with that right hand.

                I rather this Mayweather fight Cotto than the more defensive one, it gives the fans a fight they want to see and it also gives Cotto more opportunities to land solid. ha

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                  Originally posted by freedom213 View Post
                  Thats true but that mitt work/countering work is done as if fighting on the inside. I think what was suggested earlier was that Cotto jab to the shoulder keeping enough distance to not get countered like that.

                  Good point though.
                  Good point about his countering being practiced on the mitts only from the inside. Yes, I did suggest that Cotto only Jab the inside part of the left shoulder. This would give him enough distance to react and avoid the counter and at the same time if he pushed mayweahters left shoulder back enough times with a solid jab his shoulder roll might slow down a little later in the fight. And since Mayweather only rolls his left shoulder Cotto can still throw his heavy left hook to Mayweathers right shoulder as well.

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                    Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
                    There are no special effects when it comes to Cotto. We all know his best punch is his left hook to the body or the head & thats pretty much where his arsenal ends. Mayweather already is aware of this and will have Cottos best weapon nullified early in the fight. Once Cottos left hand is taken away from him, the fight is over.
                    I don't think Floyd will even have to try to get rid of that left hook. He had Ortiz right hook out the window immediately after the opening bell rang, and that's the punch that has messed with Floyd the most in the past.

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                      Originally posted by Fvck LamarSmith View Post
                      Why isn't this guy fighting Pacquiao?
                      Yes Pac wanted Cotto as his first choice opponent but Cotto will not take another draining CW for Manny and Cotto said YES i will fight you but no CW and Manny ran off to the 140 pounders instead of fight Cotto without a CW .

                      Huge Duck by Manny , even worse that Ducking Mosley and cherry picking him when shot !!!!!

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