Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'll Be Very Aggressive, Attack Cotto Early

[Atreyu Khalil]

Sugar Ray Leonard and Floyd Mayweather are anomalies to the layoff rule or at least have shown to be able to overcome that in certain instances. In the Hagler fight Hagler himself had been without a fight for 13 months, 11 months previous to that he had an absolute war with John "The Beast" Mugabi, also many thought Leonard lost that fight so look at that in context.

For you to say to me that a layoff doesnt mean anything really says it all.

Well what about if he had fought Berto 3 months earlier? Would the layoff mattered or did the extra 3 months cause him to not be effective?

Yes layoffs matter but to use that as a reason why he lost is just pathetic.

this is what Mosley said 2 weeks before the fight....


"I actually think the testing is working to my favor. . . . [Mayweather] likes to go out to clubs until 2, 3 in the morning. I'm not sure he wants USADA there. Me? You know where I'm at. I'm here in Big Bear.""

Indeed, Mosley is a gym rat who plays basketball and snowboards outside training and religiously works out.

"I don't care about how fast [Mayweather] is or how good his defense is," Mosley said. "I'm a boxer, a puncher. I can move. I can knock you out with both hands."

Richardson, Mosley's trainer, also feels confident about the Mayweather fight.

"I have a guy who's about not taking prisoners, who wants to leave his opponents lying on the battlefield," Richardson said.

"So now I'm telling everyone I know Mayweather is the best of all time. Better than Ali. Better than Frazier. The best that God has ever molded. But if he's the greatest of all time and we knock him on his back, what's that make Shane?"

Mosley himself NEVER ONCE blamed the layoff prior to the fight. So why are YOU claiming the "layoff" was the reason?

[AlwaysOnTop]

**** Manny. He was scared to fight Cotto above 147 pounds. For the first fight he drained 2 pounds out of him, then he has the nerve to demand Cotto drain himself 7 pounds for the rematch. Mayweather stepped up and said I want to fight a healthy Cotto at his weight class no catchweight Bull ****.

^^^^^There it is right there

[rrsports03]

I see what you were saying, but Bronco is a stationary fighter thats isn't a counter puncher.

I said that the shoulder attack wasn't effective vs Mayweather. Thats what I said.

Ok, I understand. I agree Branco isn't the same kind of fighter as floyd, i was just using it as an example of shoulder punching the same way you used ortiz as an example of a shoulder punch, not to compare him to anyone.

I just don't think anyone has tried it against Mayweather yet in the way I'm talking about so it shouldn't be completely dismissed until someone does. Mayweather is so dependent on his shoulder roll that if a fighter is able to find a way to beat up his shoulders a little bit who knows what would happen. If you could slow down the time of his shoulder roll even a little bit I think it would be worth trying.

[Dedication]

Ok, I understand. I agree Branco isn't the same kind of fighter as floyd, i was just using it as an example of shoulder punching the same way you used ortiz as an example of a shoulder punch, not to compare him to anyone.

I just don't think anyone has tried it against Mayweather yet in the way I'm talking about so it shouldn't be completely dismissed until someone does. Mayweather is so dependent on his shoulder roll that if a fighter is able to find a way to beat up his shoulders a little bit who knows what would happen. If you could slow down the time of his shoulder roll even a little bit I think it would be worth trying.

Virgil Hunter (Andre Ward's trainer) "Floyd's shoulder is being used to line up his opponent for his right hand, and the worst thing you could do is try and attack the shoulder. If you watch his mittwork, how many times do the mitts hit his shoulder, he's been doing those combinations a 1000 times over - it's a timing mechnasim - once you hit his shoulder, this is where he times you the best."

[AlwaysOnTop]

I think he'll try to but once he realizes Cotto is too strong he will revert to plan b, he might press late on once he has broken Cotto down though.

Floyd is stronger than Cotto.

[..WaRSpencE..]

How is this possible vs the best defensive/accurate fighter ever? How can Cotto employ this tactic while Mayweather is consistently moving his legs, his upper body and countering him at every open opportunity?

That's for Pedro Luis Diaz and Miguel Cotto to figure out, I simply stated an opinion.

Mayweather has been hit, Mayweather has been wobbled, and at the end of the day my friend, YES, Mayweather is HUMAN!..I know it's hard to fathom, but it's 100% fact.

Mayweather hasn't had good movement with his legs in the last few fights, hence why he's been more open to standing in the pocket or going "toe to toe." causing him to get hit more than usual actually, and if Cotto can press him toward the ropes where Mayweather gets the shoulder roll moving, he's gotta feint with the right hand and rip left hooks to that left shoulder. It's a hard task but it's worth the risk and take some of that upper body movement away from Mayweather.

[freedom213]

How is this possible vs the best defensive/accurate fighter ever? How can Cotto employ this tactic while Mayweather is consistently moving his legs, his upper body and countering him at every open opportunity?

How is it possible? How long have you watched boxing? FMJ is great fighter, you cant take nothing away from him skill wise but this is boxing and the simplest way to break it down is that even the best laid plans sometimes go wrong.

Saying that the jab is the key in this fight is not ground breaking stuff here. It's arguably Cotto's best punch and if he can land it consistently changes the face of the whole fight. If cannot land it consistently he probably will get picked apart.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Wow , you should be in politics. I never said Oscar would have won that fight had he kept jabbing. I simply said as is factual it helped him win some rounds and he was more successful when he did it. step off the colors and bold my brother no need simply relax and we can discuss in civility.

well the colors was to highlight the #'s. Nothing major, I took statistics in college. But i just stated that Oscars jab wasn't even effective. Mayweather lander more jabs than Oscar so how did Oscars jab help him win some rounds?

[AlwaysOnTop]

That's for Pedro Luis Diaz and Miguel Cotto to figure out, I simply stated an opinion.

Mayweather has been hit, Mayweather has been wobbled, and at the end of the day my friend, YES, Mayweather is HUMAN!..I know it's hard to fathom, but it's 100% fact.

Mayweather hasn't had good movement with his legs in the last few fights, hence why he's been more open to standing in the pocket or going "toe to toe." causing him to get hit more than usual actually, and if Cotto can press him toward the ropes where Mayweather gets the shoulder roll moving, he's gotta feint with the right hand and rip left hooks to that left shoulder. It's a hard task but it's worth the risk and take some of that upper body movement away from Mayweather.

The worse thing you can do is follow Mayweather to the ropes.

[freedom213]

Virgil Hunter (Andre Ward's trainer) "Floyd's shoulder is being used to line up his opponent for his right hand, and the worst thing you could do is try and attack the shoulder. If you watch his mittwork, how many times do the mitts hit his shoulder, he's been doing those combinations a 1000 times over - it's a timing mechnasim - once you hit his shoulder, this is where he times you the best."

Thats true but that mitt work/countering work is done as if fighting on the inside. I think what was suggested earlier was that Cotto jab to the shoulder keeping enough distance to not get countered like that.

Good point though.