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    Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
    I agree with some of that you said, especially that his jab set up other opportunities. But what I will say is not every opportunity can be taken advantage of. Oscar only landed 21% of his punches and half of those were jabs.

    Also in no way do i believe that Cotto has the boxing skill or smarts as Oscar De La Hoya, the jab, the left hook, the right hand or the power. Oscar has a longer reach by about 7 inches and is taller by 4 inches. Which is why I don't see Cotto being able to do any of what Oscar did & Oscar didn't do much.

    Prime for Prime I pick Oscar over Cotto at 147 but the Oscar Floyd fought was to say the least diminished and had one foot out of the door already. Cotto has underrated boxing ability and boxing smarts. the size factor could be a real problem but Cotto is who he is and is used to being the smaller guy in that aspect. Later

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      Originally posted by freedom213 View Post
      Thats not true at all, Cotto is a very good short accurate puncher who is capable of throwing and landing in combinations. His hand speed is underrated and his movement also good as well. He has shown flashes of a very good right hand but I have to wonder how much of that depends on the health of that previously injured right shoulder. Defensively he's inconsistent , sometimes good sometimes bad but he's no Margarito. And then maybe his best attribute he has a warrior spirit, he brings it in every fight you cant ask for much more.

      Special effects? Come on dude how old are you? Every fighter has things they do well and not so well.

      You run Cotto down but he's a three division champ with a great resume and some of the best fights of the last decade. What do you want him to do a super macho man punch as a finishing move?
      The first actual champion that Miguel Cotto defeated was Yuri Foreman in his 33rd professional fight in his 3rd weight class. His previous titles were VACANT BELTS.

      A warrior spirit will only allow you to take punishment. I like Cotto don't get me wrong but from what I've seen of him, he poses no threat to mayweather in any way. He is too predictable with his punches IMO. Also he leans forward and is always in range to be jabbed or hit with a right hand or an uppercut through the gloves.
      Last edited by Atreyu Khalil; 03-03-2012, 08:38 PM.

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        Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        Yes Pac wanted Cotto as his first choice opponent but Cotto will not take another draining CW for Manny and Cotto said YES i will fight you but no CW and Manny ran off to the 140 pounders instead of fight Cotto without a CW .

        Huge Duck by Manny , even worse that Ducking Mosley and cherry picking him when shot !!!!!
        Article from Boxing News on Feb 1st 2012
        Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum had been trying to get a fight arranged between Cotto and Pacquiao but they reached a sticking point because Cotto didn’t want to fight Pacquiao at 147 and instead would only go as low as 150 to make the fight happen.

        Koncz told ESPN “We expected Mayweather to be off the table. I didn’t expect Cotto would be. I thought he was playing hardball over the weight issue. Cotto wouldn’t agree to come below 150 pounds. We wanted 147. Had he said 148? We probably could have gotten that done.”

        So in other words, Cotto would have come down six whole pounds from 154 [Cotto’s fight weight in the junior middleweight division], while Pacquiao would have to only gain one pound? That’s not much of a bargain, is it? Pacquiao only budges one pound upwards while Cotto has to lose six pounds to make the fight happen.

        If that’s what Koncz considers a fair negotiation then what’s the point of the catchweight if Pacquiao is only going to move one pound? I see an offer like this as an insult and to Cotto’s credit; he never budged from his offer of 150. That’s more than fair because he’s giving four pounds and Pacquiao only three. I like that deal a lot better than Cotto having to lose pounds and Pacquiao just has to gain one. If that’s how they do negotiations with fighters then I can see why Cotto decided to move on and face Mayweather instead.

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          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          When Floyd Mayweather Jr prepared to fight Victor Ortiz last year, he vowed he wouldn’t move and would stay in the pocket and trade with Ortiz. To his credit, that’s exactly what he did and even though the fight only lasted four rounds, Floyd was pretty offensive and was even the aggressor at times.

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            Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
            No I talk as if I've seen all of Cottos fights. I didn't shoot down what you said. I just don't believe Cotto has the skillset to employ your ideas. I thought what you said was logical. Forgive me if it came across otherwise.

            I would have to disagree with your assertion that ""Mayweathers best tool is is shoulder roll and counters off of it so if cotto can nullify this the fight is over". For the simple fact that Mayweather never fights the same way in each fight. The way he fought Hatton was different than the way he fought Marquez which was different than the way he fought Mosley. Adaptation is Mayweathers best tool whereas Cotto pretty much fights every fighter the same. Would you not agree?

            I can't disagree with Mayweather ability to adapt. He definately has an uncany ability to adapt and adjust midfight. Most fighters dont' have that ability. I've seen almost all of Cotto's fights as well and I also have to agree with you that Cotto isn't as adept at making adjustments midfight as Mayweather. Mayweather can see what adjustments he has to make himself and implement them while cotto needs someone in his corner that sees them telling him what adjustments to make. Personally I think most Mayweather fights look similar, he makes minor adjustments,not major ones. Pretty much the shoulder roll and counters off of it are consistent fight to fight. I would consider his defense his best asset (defense meaning a combination of shoulder-rolls/blocking/avoiding punches/adapting to opponent/counter punching).

            Also, I just wanted to mention that it wasn't cool of you to post a vid of cotto's family crying during the Pacquiao fight. Come on man, have some respect for Cotto and for the sport of boxing.

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              Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
              There are no special effects when it comes to Cotto. We all know his best punch is his left hook to the body or the head & thats pretty much where his arsenal ends. Mayweather already is aware of this and will have Cottos best weapon nullified early in the fight. Once Cottos left hand is taken away from him, the fight is over.
              The fight is over once Floyd starts landing that jab to the solar plexis..

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                Originally posted by Atreyu Khalil View Post
                The shoulders?...that has NEVER EVER BEEN EFFECTIVE... every fighter has tried that. It simply isn't effective. Thats the wrong game plan IMHO
                Yes it was.

                Cotto Stopped Gialuca Branco beacuse of a dislocated or fractured shoulder.

                Just watch the fight.

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                  Conball haters

                  Article is biased, Cotto been in the gym too.

                  Hey Atreyu, what a great fan of Cotto and boxing you are... Also a blind rat could see Cotto is the ****ing man and always has been. You go by your ****ty criteria with them silly alphabet titles and I'll go by what I see - Cotto fighting threats, resume is one of the best in this era, way better than Floyds. Cotto made Foreman hop after bouncing with him, not being outboxed like the script was. Fact is, Foreman never lost that leg in the ring before and is a bigger dude. Fact is B, Cotto beats these guys who are bigger and gets TKO's. Stop crying about his wins you just mad papa, cheato was losing eye or not - bu you KNOW that already, you just trolling your hate for Cotto, don't even believe the **** you write yourself LMAO I want Floyd to be aggressive, Cotto can eat anything he throws and hits harder. May 5th that 0 will go. And you will be making up excuses lol.

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                    Originally posted by freedom213 View Post
                    Prime for Prime I pick Oscar over Cotto at 147 but the Oscar Floyd fought was to say the least diminished and had one foot out of the door already. Cotto has underrated boxing ability and boxing smarts. the size factor could be a real problem but Cotto is who he is and is used to being the smaller guy in that aspect. Later
                    I would pick the Oscar that fought Floyd over this current version of Cotto.

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                      Originally posted by rrsports03 View Post
                      I can't disagree with Mayweather ability to adapt. He definately has an uncany ability to adapt and adjust midfight. Most fighters dont' have that ability. I've seen almost all of Cotto's fights as well and I also have to agree with you that Cotto isn't as adept at making adjustments midfight as Mayweather. Mayweather can see what adjustments he has to make himself and implement them while cotto needs someone in his corner that sees them telling him what adjustments to make. Personally I think most Mayweather fights look similar, he makes minor adjustments,not major ones. Pretty much the shoulder roll and counters off of it are consistent fight to fight. I would consider his defense his best asset (defense meaning a combination of shoulder-rolls/blocking/avoiding punches/adapting to opponent/counter punching).

                      Also, I just wanted to mention that it wasn't cool of you to post a vid of cotto's family crying during the Pacquiao fight. Come on man, have some respect for Cotto and for the sport of boxing.
                      I don't feel it was insensitive by any means. Not more than posting pictures of Cottos face after the fight. This is boxing, that was a memorable moment for the sport in recent years. Do you think his family will be at the Mayweather fight? If they are and Mayweather starts his unstoppable offensive attack, how do you think his family will react?

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