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    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    And I'm a Mayweather fan. Possibly one of the biggest on this site.

    But, I'm not biased, I tell it like it is.

    Mayweather avoided Margarito and to be honest, I don't think he wanted any part of him.

    I don't think he was scared, per se. But I think he knew he was a high threat low reward fight, and didn't want to even take the smallest risk in messing up the Oscar fight.

    In all honesty, back then, I thought Margarito would give Mayweather problems. I wanted to see the fight of course but at the same time I was a little concerned that Mayweather could lose this one.

    The first time in years I felt that way.

    Dan, how can you say Floyd avoided Margarito when the record clearly states that Floyd was willing to fight Margarito but Arum couldn't guarantee the money?

    This news is as clear as day. Floyd was willing to fight Margarito, Cotto, Hatton and others in 2006, but Arum couldn't gaurantee the money. How does that tell you Floyd ducked Margarito?

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      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
      Dan, how can you say Floyd avoided Margarito when the record clearly states that Floyd was willing to fight Margarito but Arum couldn't guarantee the money?

      This news is as clear as day. Floyd was willing to fight Margarito, Cotto, Hatton and others in 2006, but Arum couldn't gaurantee the money. How does that tell you Floyd ducked Margarito?
      What about before that?

      What about instead of Zab Judah?

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        Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
        Agree with you man. I try to be as unbias as possible with Floyd, and I think I do a pretty good job with him and Manny. I've always said the fight people have a legit argument about not happening on Floyd's behalf was Margarito. I think it was a bit of a Bradley-Khan situation. I really think Bradley knew that once he got away from Shaw and got on to Top Rank, that he'd be in line to fight Pacquiao. I think it was the same thing that Floyd knew he'd be in line to fight Oscar at 154. Right or wrong, this s**t happens.
        Like I said, I don't blame him. I understand why he fought others instead.

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          Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
          vs.





          In one breath you're saying Cotto didn't deserve to fight Mayweather in 2008 because he didn't beat anyone (razor thin victory over Mosley); but in the same breath you're admitting to Mayweather challenging Cotto in 2005/2006.

          Interesting... Are you saying Cotto's resume was better in 2006, which is why Mayweather challenged him as oppose to Cotto's resume 2008?
          Are we talking resume or record? If record, then yes ... I am saying that.

          In 2006 Cotto was undefeated. In 2008, Cotto was beaten unmercifully.

          What are you trying to get at?

          Ask a question and I'll break it down for you.

          I never said anything about deserving. I simply said that Cotto was a top fighter for 8 months before he got humilated and demoted.

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            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            What about before that?

            What about instead of Zab Judah?


            According to this article, Arum didn't offer him the $8 million guarantee until "after" the Judah fight anyway.

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              Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
              Are we talking resume or record? If record, then yes ... I am saying that.

              In 2006 Cotto was undefeated. In 2008, Cotto was beaten unmercifully.

              What are you trying to get at?

              Ask a question and I'll break it down for you.
              I'm talking resume and record and "BEFORE" the Gomez and Margarito fight.

              Before both of those fights, Cotto was behind Mayweather in the best of the division. I'm not talking about after Cotto got beat with plaster.

              But according to you Margarito was never anything to begin with. So in your eyes what would a Cotto win over Margarito do for you anyway? That's neither here nor there.

              Yes, I'm talking about early 2008 around the April/May time frame. The Cotto vs Gomez bout could've waited if Mayweather gave his stamp of approval. All he had to do was say the word.

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                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post


                According to this article, Arum didn't offer him the $8 million guarantee until "after" the Judah fight anyway.
                That's correct I believe.

                He was still offered the Margarito fight and it was available before he fought Judah.

                But, he fought Judah instead.

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                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  And I'm a Mayweather fan. Possibly one of the biggest on this site.

                  But, I'm not biased, I tell it like it is.

                  Mayweather avoided Margarito and to be honest, I don't think he wanted any part of him.
                  Margarito was champ for 6 months before Mosley left him laying like a newborn baby.

                  If Floyd avoided Margarito, it could only be for 6 months because that's how long Margarito was ever in contention before being embarrassed.

                  Think about it.

                  Real champions can hold on to a championship for more than 8 months at a time so that they can make it to a match with the #1 fighter in their division.

                  If you can hold on to your **** for more than 8 months, then you're not really that big a deal, now are you?

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                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    That's correct I believe.

                    He was still offered the Margarito fight and it was available before he fought Judah.

                    But, he fought Judah instead.
                    Show me a link where Arum offered Floyd $8 million or any amount of money before the Judah fight to fight Margarito instead.

                    I'll gladly wait.

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                      Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
                      Margarito was champ for 6 months before Mosley left him laying like a newborn baby.

                      If Floyd avoided Margarito, it could only be for 6 months because that's how long Margarito was ever in contention before being embarrassed.

                      Think about it.

                      Real champions can hold on to a championship for more than 8 months at a time so that they can make it to a match with the #1 fighter in their division.

                      If you can hold on to your **** for more than 8 months, then you're not really that big a deal, now are you?

                      Again you fail to acknowledge Margs reign as WBO champ.

                      With your 6 months crap.

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