Bradley will change his mind after he tastes Pacquiao's power. Suprised he said Mayweather, how could Mayweather be the best when he refuses to prove he is even the best at his own weight. The only reason he took Cotto is again he fells it is a sure win. Hope Cotto proves him wrong.
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Originally posted by Growth View PostBradley will change his mind after he tastes Pacquiao's power. Suprised he said Mayweather, how could Mayweather be the best when he refuses to prove he is even the best at his own weight. The only reason he took Cotto is again he fells it is a sure win. Hope Cotto proves him wrong.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostNo no no, if Mayweather didn't retire, and stayed active during 2008, Manny Pacquaio to this very day would never have been considered the P4P #1 in his entire career.
Manny Pacquaio has proven as long as your active whilst being considered #1 then you won't be moved from there in this day and age. He's fought a joke list of fighters from 2010 onwards outside the Marquez fight in which the majority of people felt he lost. Yet, he's still #1.
Again, the only reason Manny Pacquaio has ever been considered P4P #1 is because Floyd Mayweather retired.
This is simply a fact, and a burden that will be carried around with him until the end of time.
It doesn't matter how many ******s such as yourself tip toe around it, it's simply a fact. No point losing sleep over it.
If Floyd chose to coast with his career, Pac would have overtaken him as no1 anyway, it makes no difference that he retired and doesnt bother me or anyone else. Its only you who brings that fact up, trying to give FLoyd credit on a tecnicality. Floyd fans get so desperate the way you are behaving i wouldnt expect anything less, beg, borrow and steal credit for Floyd, as he continues to under achieve.
If FLoyd did the business, you wouldnt have to act as salesmen for him, his career would speak for itself, but it dont. Pac beats people and Floyd fans just try discredit everything Pac does claiming Floyd COULD do, yet dont do it. If you guys didnt discredit pacs amazing performances most pac fans probably wouldnt respond to you guys. But you make out your so bitter you are begging to be put in your place.Last edited by hugh grant; 02-25-2012, 05:53 PM.
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Originally posted by strife View Postwow, this what happens when you become a nuthugger to the extreme. we have ourselves a nostradamus. so if floyd stayed active(key word IF) and fought quality opponents, according to you he would never lose a fight? LOL, nuthugging at its best. Who was your P4P from 2010 onwards then? please enlighten us who this great fighter is?
I said, if he stayed active through 2008 he would still be P4P #1. Obviously, that's presuming he didn't lose in that period.
You're asking me who my P4P #1 was in 2010? That would be Pacquaio. Solely because when Mayweather retired he filled the vacancy and he had a phenomenal 2009.
Of course, The Ring Magazine are still going to have him ranked at #1 considering The Ring Magazine generally don't change their P4P Rankings unless the said fighter loses, and, as he hasn't officially lost, he's still #1 - This same logic applies to why Pacquaio would never have been P4P #1 had Mayweather not retired - And incase you need the obvious clarifying again, then obviously, presuming he didn't lose in that period.
I personally don't consider Manny Pacquaio the P4P #1 now because frankly, since 2009 he has had jokes of fights and the only legit fight he "won" the majority of people felt he lost.
With all that being said, again, the fact still remains that if Floyd Mayweather didn't retire for 2008, Manny Pacquaio to this very day would never been considered P4P #1.
That wouldn't matter if Mayweather fought a one armed midgit and won by Split Decision for his sole fight in 2008.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostCan you prove any of the rubbish you write? So once p4p no1 you stay there? Dont think so? If you lose you dont stay there, or if you dont beat people exceptionally like Pac has you might not stay there as well. Pac has wiped out people, people who you say arent great opponents, yet Floyd would probably pot shot them to victory over 12 rounds if he was lucky. So why shouldnt pac stay there? But im giving Floyd the benefit of the doubt as he chose not to fight the guys Pac fought.
Out of his last 3 fights, 2 of them hadn't won a legit fight in years.
The other one, the majority of people believe he lost (For a reason)
But he's maintained his P4P #1 Ranking.
As long as your active, and don't lose when you're P4P #1 you won't move from there.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostIf Floyd chose to coast with his career, Pac would have overtaken him as no1 anyway, it makes no difference that he retired and doesnt bother me or anyone else. Its only you who brings that fact up, trying to give FLoyd credit on a tecnicality. Floyd fans get so desperate the way you are behaving i wouldnt expect anything less, beg, borrow and steal credit for Floyd, as he continues to under achieve.
Not if he didn't lose.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostIf FLoyd did the business, you wouldnt have to act as salesmen for him, his career would speak for itself, but it dont. Pac beats people and Floyd fans just try discredit everything Pac does claiming Floyd COULD do, yet dont do it. If you guys didnt discredit pacs amazing performances most pac fans probably wouldnt respond to you guys. But you make out your so bitter you are begging to be put in your place.Acting as salesman? How so?
I'm merely stating that if Mayweather didn't retire for 2008, Manny Pacquaio would never have bee considered P4P #1 to this very day.
That's an irrefutable fact. (Again, going off the presumption he didn't lose in that year)
The only reason Manny Pacquaio was ever considered P4P #1 through his long, exceptional career was because Floyd Mayweather retired.
Again, this is a fact.
And, I'm not even saying this means anything. Does this mean Floyd Mayweather is greater than Manny Pacquauo? No, it doesn't.
But by your logic, the whole 'Mayweather is consiered inferior because Pac is P4P #1', Mayweather was infact considered superior for the bulk of their careers going by that very same logic.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostManny Pacquaio is walking proof that it doesn't matter who you fight when you're P4P #1 you will stay there until you lose.
Out of his last 3 fights, 2 of them hadn't won a legit fight in years.
The other one, the majority of people believe he lost (For a reason)
But he's maintained his P4P #1 Ranking.
As long as your active, and don't lose when you're P4P #1 you won't move from there.
No, he wouldn't.
Not if he didn't lose.
Acting as salesman? How so?
I'm merely stating that if Mayweather didn't retire for 2008, Manny Pacquaio would never have bee considered P4P #1 to this very day.
That's an irrefutable fact. (Again, going off the presumption he didn't lose in that year)
The only reason Manny Pacquaio was ever considered P4P #1 through his long, exceptional career was because Floyd Mayweather retired.
Again, this is a fact.
And, I'm not even saying this means anything. Does this mean Floyd Mayweather is greater than Manny Pacquauo? No, it doesn't.
But by your logic, the whole 'Mayweather is consiered inferior because Pac is P4P #1', Mayweather was infact considered superior for the bulk of their careers going by that very same logic.
And you are just speaking for effect with your if Floyd didnt retire Pac wouldnt be no1 dreams. If Floyd continued to pot shot average fighters like he did, and coast to victory in 12 round fights like he did, and imagine would still do today IF he fought, and Pac was destroying the likes of Cotto and Clottey at 147 Pac WOULD be no1 and beating Floyds leftovers like DLH and hatton better than Floyd did or ever could Pac would be no1. FLoyd just got out at the right time.
The thing is as well Pac was always fighting at a lower weight than Floyd, but once Pac was campaigning at 147 there would be less reason for Floyd to stay at no1 the world could see that.
So stop trying to put forward your sales pitch for Floyd continually, Floyd hasnt earnt your loyalty.Last edited by hugh grant; 02-25-2012, 08:19 PM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostFLoyd was p4p no1 but there was talk i remember in magazines and forums that people thought Pac should be no1, Floyds place wasnt set in stone by any means.@ your utter lies.
Mayweather's #1 spot was absolutely set in stone and had been for years prior to 2008.
Please, provide a link that claims it wasn't. Please, provide it.
Originally posted by hugh grant View PostAnd you are just speaking for effect with your if Floyd didnt retire Pac wouldnt be no1 dreams. If Floyd continued to pot shot average fighters like he did, and coast to victory in 12 round fights like he did, and imagine would still do today IF he fought, and Pac was destroying the likes of Cotto and Clottey at 147 Pac WOULD be no1. The thing is Pac was always fighting at a lower weight than Floyd, but once Pac was campaigning at 147 there would be less reason for Floyd to stay at no1.
If Mayweather didn't retire in 2008, and fought say, for example, a Hatton rematch or an Oscar rematch at 147. And presuming he won the single fight he were to have in 2008, and 09,10 and 11 were identical for both Pacquaio and Mayweather, then Pacquaio would still be #2 behind Mayweather.
It's really that simple. Clearly, you are upset about that.
Like I said, stop losing sleep over it. It really doesn't mean anything or determine anything.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post@ your utter lies.
Mayweather's #1 spot was absolutely set in stone and had been for years prior to 2008.
Please, provide a link that claims it wasn't. Please, provide it.
Again, it's not for effect.
If Mayweather didn't retire in 2008, and fought say, for example, a Hatton rematch or an Oscar rematch at 147. And presuming he won the single fight he were to have in 2008, and 09,10 and 11 were identical for both Pacquaio and Mayweather, then Pacquaio would still be #2 behind Mayweather.
It's really that simple. Clearly, you are upset about that.
Like I said, stop losing sleep over it. It really doesn't mean anything or determine anything.
Floyd got out at the right time, just as he was about to lose his spot as the so called best.
BTW, stop dreaming about Floyd giving Hatton and DLH rematches. He missed the ship for that one with his casual approach and allowed Pac to retire them both. Again you will have to stop living in fantasy land, you did better when you didnt talk so much with me.Last edited by hugh grant; 02-25-2012, 08:35 PM.
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