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    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
    NOT HIS BEST CHALLENGE BUSH.

    The same way manny is a challenge for floyd, but is not percieved to be more difficult then Sergio because of the weight difference. Ward for the same reasons, would be more difficult for sergio than floyd.
    sergio is a better fighter than manny and bigger but ward might be bigger than floyd but he sure as hell is not better than floyd so i'm not sure who is a tougher fight for sergio.was margarito a tougher fight than marquez for pacquiao?

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      Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
      So, do you think Pacman can beat Floyd?

      Cause I know you think Floyd beats Sergio.

      But I know you know Pacman stands no chance. So I don't understand why you'd bring up Pacman, who doesn't even belong in a convo bout elite fighters. Seems like you know deep down that Floyd isn't the best fighter capable of competing at 154 & you're trying too hard because you simply are afraid of the outcome of Floyd/Martinez.

      So you bring up Ward to defend Floyd. But it's not the same cause everyone knows Martinez never fought at 168 & they know he cannot compete with Ward. What everyone doesn't know is who would win if the consensus #1 pfp, (Floyd) fights the consensus #3 (Martinez).
      i don't know that

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        Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
        i don't know that
        You're probably the only 1 that thinks that then.

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          People need to accept that Martinez is too big

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            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            One thing is for sure though, If Mayweather fights Martinez at 160 it would do way more for his legacy than if he fights him at 154.
            If you are so concerned about Floyd's legacy why not have him fight Klitscko at 240?

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              Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              So, do you think Pacman can beat Floyd?

              Cause I know you think Floyd beats Sergio.

              But I know you know Pacman stands no chance. So I don't understand why you'd bring up Pacman, who doesn't even belong in a convo bout elite fighters. Seems like you know deep down that Floyd isn't the best fighter capable of competing at 154 & you're trying too hard because you simply are afraid of the outcome of Floyd/Martinez.

              So you bring up Ward to defend Floyd. But it's not the same cause everyone knows Martinez never fought at 168 & they know he cannot compete with Ward. What everyone doesn't know is who would win if the consensus #1 pfp, (Floyd) fights the consensus #3 (Martinez).
              if you honestly think this then so be it. to say I'm using ward to defend floyd is beyond ridiculous. you keep purposely avoiding the point i'm making; that money over challenge has to be wrong for every fighter or its not wrong at all.

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                Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                sergio is a better fighter than manny and bigger but ward might be bigger than floyd but he sure as hell is not better than floyd so i'm not sure who is a tougher fight for sergio.was margarito a tougher fight than marquez for pacquiao?
                Margs wasn't one of the 3 best fighters in the world so your point isn't relative to the discussion, respectfully. JMM was when he fought manny.

                The weight is what makes sergio tougher than manny for floyd and its what makes ward tougher than floyd for sergio. These are the 3 of the 4 best fighters in the world

                Bush is just pretending at this point. Whenever a poster describes an arguement as " you defend _______(insert fighter)" i know they've run out of points to make.

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                  Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                  So, do you think Pacman can beat Floyd?

                  Cause I know you think Floyd beats Sergio.

                  But I know you know Pacman stands no chance. So I don't understand why you'd bring up Pacman, who doesn't even belong in a convo bout elite fighters. Seems like you know deep down that Floyd isn't the best fighter capable of competing at 154 & you're trying too hard because you simply are afraid of the outcome of Floyd/Martinez.

                  So you bring up Ward to defend Floyd. But it's not the same cause everyone knows Martinez never fought at 168 & they know he cannot compete with Ward. What everyone doesn't know is who would win if the consensus #1 pfp, (Floyd) fights the consensus #3 (Martinez).
                  have you ever heard of a 6 weight world champion not being an elite fighter?

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                    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                    if you honestly think this then so be it. to say I'm using ward to defend floyd is beyond ridiculous. you keep purposely avoiding the point i'm making; that money over challenge has to be wrong for every fighter or its not wrong at all.
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                    Margs wasn't one of the 3 best fighters in the world so your point isn't relative to the discussion, respectfully. JMM was when he fought manny.

                    The weight is what makes sergio tougher than manny for floyd and its what makes ward tougher than floyd for sergio. These are the 3 of the 4 best fighters in the world

                    Bush is just pretending at this point. Whenever a poster describes an arguement as " you defend _______(insert fighter)" i know they've run out of points to make.
                    Sounds to me like you're saying Floyd isn't a challenge for Martinez. That's all I get from your posts. You keep bringing up Ward as if Martinez has fought at 168 before. He's never been there. It's 1 thing to fight fighters in a division you've been at & another entirely to jump 8 pounds to 1 of the deepest divisions in the world & fight the best fighter there, maybe even the best fighter in boxing.

                    Floyd is a 2 time 154lb champ. Martinez has hardly made the middleweight limit. Both are top 3 both can easily make 154. It's not the same in the slightest. But again all I get from your post is Floyd isn't a challenge for Martinez, cause that's basically what you're saying.

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                      Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                      Sounds to me like you're saying Floyd isn't a challenge for Martinez. That's all I get from your posts. You keep bringing up Ward as if Martinez has fought at 168 before. He's never been there. It's 1 thing to fight fighters in a division you've been at & another entirely to jump 8 pounds to 1 of the deepest divisions in the world & fight the best fighter there, maybe even the best fighter in boxing.

                      Floyd is a 2 time 154lb champ. Martinez has hardly made the middleweight limit. Both are top 3 both can easily make 154. It's not the same in the slightest. But again all I get from your post is Floyd isn't a challenge for Martinez, cause that's basically what you're saying.
                      if you choose to interpret it that way so be it. your initial argument was challenge over money. I responded to that point. If floyd should do that, so should sergio. In that respect, if floyd must choose sergio over canelo then sergio must choose ward over floyd.

                      now your just trying to pivot to something else with all the other stuff.

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