Lmao floyd wasn't even the A-side for the Ortiz fight
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I'm The A-Side, I'll Make Pacquiao The Offer
Collapse
-
-
-
Originally posted by KingOfBox View PostUmm everything in your post is wrong... EVERYTHING.
1. Financially, Pacquiao does not compare at the gate or PPV. Floyd averages more PPV buys and gate revenue per fight than Pacquiao by galaxies. Pacquiao has not once threatened to break any sort of PPV record. So you're right, "THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE" Mayweather is by miles the biggest draw in boxing statistically and by the mere fact that more people will pay to watch Floyd lose than Pacquiao win.
2. In his comeback fight Floyd fought Victor Ortiz and made the 2nd highest gate EVER for non-heavys and near 1.3 mill PPV buys. This was with VICTOR ORTIZ! Who had never fought on PPV before and was unknown to the casual fan before "the 2-piece". Pacquiao fought his last fight against MARQUEZ, a well known PPV commodity in the sport with a phenomenal Mexican fanbase comparable to his own. NOBODY knew who Ortiz was until he fought Floyd Mayweather. And Floyd still has better numbers. People tuned in to watch the return of Floyd Mayweather. He made these numbers essentially by himself.
3. As we all know Floyd released a statement saying he wants to fight Pacquiao May 5th. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!?!?!
4. Top Rank was saying they wanted a 4th fight with Marquez. You didn't seem to say anything about that....
Comment
-
Originally posted by treason1 View Postyou seem to have a short memory !!! you claim mayweather is the bigger draw but he couldnt even sell out his last fight with ortiz .... but guess what manny EASILY sould out his fight with marquez!!!!! and he did it welll before the fight date !!!!!!!! you claim that maywethaer is the bigger draw buy his ppv numbers were sub 1mill buys ... guess what mannys numbers were at least 1.2 !!!!! AT LEAST !!!!!! ppv numbers and gate revenue are in mannys favor the fight is 50/50 or nothing even the most die hard ***** will agree to that !!!!
School in session guys!
Mayweather - Hatton = 920,000 / Pac - Hatton = 850,000
Mayweather - DLH = 2.4 million / Pac - DLH = 1.25 million
Mayweather - Mosley = 1.4 million / Pac - Mosley = 1.3 million
Mayweather - Marquez 2009 = 1.05 million / Pac - Marquez 2008 = 400,000
Now we can look at Pac vs a PPV unknown... against numbers of Floyd vs a PPV unknown:
Mayweather - Ortiz = 1.25 million / Pac - Clottey = 700,000
Others:
Pac - Cotto = 1.25 million
Pac - Margarito = 1.15 million
Pacquiao does fight more often than Floyd and DOES make exceptional money for a boxer (also we do not know the numbers for his recent fight against Marquez which I would suspect did very well probably anywhere from 1.1 to 1.4)...But fact of the matter is that Pac has never threatened any PPV records while Floyd obliterates revenues everytime he laces up.
Thanks for attending Boxing College
Comment
-
Originally posted by KingOfBox View PostGood for you Floyd! This is no roadblock... it's the TRUTH!! When he fights he sells more than anyone in the sport by far. Bob Arum has tried for the last 2+ years to convince people that Pacquiao is a bigger draw or a financial equal. Bob knows he is lying. More people WANT to see Mayweather lose, than Pacquiao win.... and THAT my friends is why Floyd is the A-side.
Now it seems that the negotiations might finally get serious because JMM set his requirements for a 4th fight in Mexico with Mexican Commission, and they don't seem to be requirements that TOP RANK is going to like very much. Pacquiao's stock fell dramatically in his last fight, and he looked very vulnerable which won't help his case in negotiations. I can see a scenario play out where TOP RANK tries to get tough in negotiating with Floyd, and Floyd says "F^ck You, good luck beating Marquez in Mexico!" I think that factor has TOP RANK against the wall and they will have to take that walk of shame and give in to Mayweather.
Pacquiao has Mayweather or Marquez.. That's it.
Floyd can fight Maidana, Berto or rematch Ortiz in February.. Then he can have a quick turnaround and fight Khan, Pacquiao, Canelo or Morales on May 5th!
Let the games begin!!! Hardcore Fight fans... looks like we are finally getting our fight!!!
Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 11-24-2011, 02:29 PM.
Comment
-
-
Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post**** that nonsense. Floyd has Berto who was beaten by Ortiz, who he already fought? Maidana? Lol you guys grasp at straws. Floyd, only has two fights that mean anything, either Martinez or Pac, anyone else is bull**** plain and simple. He's playing games like he ALWAYS does and we've all seen this game before, call Floyd's bluff and he comes up with another excuse.
Comment
-
Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostThat's wrong, or you just just might have confused Gate with PPV revenue.
1.25 million is not a record, and i never said it was!!! the gate revenue was 2nd highest for non heavys!!!
And YES i know the difference between the two!!!
:bukkake:
Comment
-
Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post**** that nonsense. Floyd has Berto who was beaten by Ortiz, who he already fought? Maidana? Lol you guys grasp at straws. Floyd, only has two fights that mean anything, either Martinez or Pac, anyone else is bull**** plain and simple. He's playing games like he ALWAYS does and we've all seen this game before, call Floyd's bluff and he comes up with another excuse.
Neither Floyd nor Pac wants to fight Martinez right now!! its obvious!
Risk to reward ratio is too high!!
I'm tired of people yelling out Martinez!! I do agree he is a priority fight for both Floyd and Pac at some point.. But his situation is a tricky one... He does the right thing by taking on actual legit mandatories... Problem is the casual fans won't care to watch. So in a sense he is being PUNISHED FINANCIALLY for being a great fighter who takes on all comers which is bull****.. This happens when you're as dangerous as Sergio is. People don't want to risk a loss especially when they don't stand to earn alot. You have to put yourself in Floyd or Pac's shoes... neither is scared as they both operate in a profession which requires taking punches for a living. But when asked if you would like to fight little Marquez for 1.4 or 1.5 mill ppv buys ($20 million guaranteed) vs fighting Martinez for 850,000 or 900,000 ppv buys (maybe $10 million or $15 million guaranteed) EVEN YOU WOULD FIGHT MARQUEZ! In the end it sucks to be Sergio Martinez cuz you can't land a Mega-fight because you are too dangerous. I mean I feel sorry for the guy... WHAT CAN HE DO??
But we already know this so realistically don't expect Sergio to land a fight with either man, especially Pacman...
Comment
Comment