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    Originally posted by SERVILEV View Post
    the above bold?? what would make to think that?? bradley plays right into Pacq hand. Easy KO for Pacq, bradley is to sloppy with his looping shots!!
    Because Bradley finds a way to win, and he is on top of his game right now.

    Pac dont like fighting those guys.

    He needs a slow, plodding, come-forward, guy to look good against, someone like Clottey/Hatton/Diaz/Margarito..... and Tim aint one of those.

    The more that Pac struggles, the more that his stock will drop, and the last thing that Pac needs right now is to be taken to the wire by Bradley.

    Also, the more problems that Pac has against guys who move, or who happen to be a little slicker than the quartet mentioned above, then more people will figure out why Pac skirted around some of the more capable guys on his way up.

    He will never decisively beat Marquez, because he cannot, end of story, so he should forget it, and move on. Better to let history reflect an unfavorable result, than to get taken out trying to correct it.

    He needs a look-good opponent to attempt to generate interest away from Marquez and back toward Mayweather, or he runs the risk of slowly killing that fight himself.

    BTW, 3-0 Marquez

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      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      Only Pacquiao fans believe this and as a matter a fact not all of them because I read posts from some that was calling it like it is. Pac has been exposed and Marquez was robbed. Pac didn't look like a winner last night after the final bell. Dude went back to the corner and got on his knees to pray. Look what's going down already on ESPN:

      It's over Pac fans. Pac can continue to have Arum keep him from fighting Floyd but the more he fights the more exposed he looks making Floyd look greater without having to fight Pac. No one is believing Floyd is ducking Pac like they used to because Pac ain't nothing to duck.
      Pacquiao should have continued to listen to Michael Koncz.

      " I told Manny to avoid Marquez, because Marquez has Manny's number "
      ~ Michael Koncz

      They relied on the fact that.....
      1.) JMM is old
      2.) JMM has faded
      3.) JMM is a lightweight who cannot hang at welter

      Pac needs to stay clear of Bradley, he needs to stay clear of Ortiz, and he needs to try to hook up a come-forward plodder that he can look good against.

      Pacquiao's problem is that the writing was on the wall against Mosley.

      Movement = problems for Pac, thats just how it is.

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        Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
        Pacquiao should have continued to listen to Michael Koncz.

        " I told Manny to avoid Marquez, because Marquez has Manny's number "
        ~ Michael Koncz

        They relied on the fact that.....
        1.) JMM is old
        2.) JMM has faded
        3.) JMM is a lightweight who cannot hang at welter

        Pac needs to stay clear of Bradley, he needs to stay clear of Ortiz, and he needs to try to hook up a come-forward plodder that he can look good against.

        Pacquiao's problem is that the writing was on the wall against Mosley.

        Movement = problems for Pac, thats just how it is.
        Marquez figured out Pacquiao but Manny ain't figure out Juan. He clearly beat him with no debates other than the judges and some Pac fans that still haven't abandoned ship yet. Pac needs to fight Floyd or get out the game because ain't nobody cosigning any fight from him other than Floyd and that fight will have him as a major under dog. Floyd is laughing his ass off I'm sure because everyone knows Floyd is the best. They may not like him but he comes back from semi retirement and still looks sharp while Pac struggles with guys people claim he should run through. Pac hype was at another level before the 3rd Marquez fight. I knew Marquez would not be an easy fight for Pac because he never was and he fought the better fighters since 2008. Pac has been exposed and am sure he drops down on the P4P list. Marquez is going to get mega props from this eventhough they robbed him again because it was clear as day that he won and Arum had to cheat him to make Pac look like a winner. Roach said JMM would be put out in 6 rounds because they thought he couldn't hang because of what Floyd did but Floyd is a different fighter period. Floyd+Martinez as Pac's opponents= Manny Pacquiao's funeral.
        Last edited by GRUSTLER; 11-13-2011, 09:16 PM.

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          hey, Manny with all due respect, you won a close decision against a 38 year old ex-great that MW played with for 12 rounds a few years ago that could easily have gone the other way -- by the way, you looked just plain LOUSY for much of the fight -- you need to sit down with yourself and decide whether you still have a passion for the sport to just want to become a full-time politician and national icon....

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            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            Marquez figured out Pacquiao but Manny ain't figure out Juan. He clearly beat him with no debates other than the judges and some Pac fans that still haven't abandoned ship yet. Pac needs to fight Floyd or get out the game because ain't nobody cosigning any fight from him other than Floyd and that fight will have him as a major under dog. Floyd is laughing his ass off I'm sure because everyone knows Floyd is the best. They may not like him but he comes back from semi retirement and still looks sharp while Pac struggles with guys people claim he should run through. Pac hype was at another level before the 3rd Marquez fight. I knew Marquez would not be an easy fight for Pac because he never was and he fought the better fighters since 2008. Pac has been exposed and am sure he drops down on the P4P list. Marquez is going to get mega props from this eventhough they robbed him again because it was clear as day that he won and Arum had to cheat him to make Pac look like a winner. Roach said JMM would be put out in 6 rounds because they thought he couldn't hang because of what Floyd did but Floyd is a different fighter period. Floyd+Martinez as Pac's opponents= Manny Pacquiao's funeral.
            Yep, it was..... and it was absurd.

            That was great timing by Marquez, no pun intended, and props for picking it GRUS, you held the faith, good one man.

            I thought that the orchestrated weight manipulation would work, but it didn't.

            I am so proud of JMM, what a fkn legend that guy is.

            It serves Pacquiao right..... karma is a b1tch.

            Oscar tried to setup a lightweight, and he got touched up for it when he ***ed up the weight..... now Manny tried to setup a lightweight, and he got touched up for it when he ****ed up the weight

            The specifics are different, but the principle is identical.

            Karma is a b1tch sometimes, and it serves Pac right.

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              Originally posted by puga View Post
              good job pac, thats very honest of you......pissdrinker could'nt have possibly won more than 4 rounds...

              8- 4 pacquaio like lederman had it
              OMG, proud to be a *******? goodluck with that!

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                Originally posted by mshap View Post
                hey, Manny with all due respect, you won a close decision against a 38 year old ex-great that MW played with for 12 rounds a few years ago that could easily have gone the other way -- by the way, you looked just plain LOUSY for much of the fight -- you need to sit down with yourself and decide whether you still have a passion for the sport to just want to become a full-time politician and national icon....
                Pac is fine in that respect.

                His problems had nothing to do with discipline, motivation, training, passion....

                His problems were caused by Juan Manuel Marquez, and by the fact that Pacquiao does not have the technical ability to make the necessary adjustments required to overcome an intelligent fighter like Marquez.

                They wont rematch JMM, because "the better fighter will make the better adjustments"..... and that aint Pac.

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                  Originally posted by Laborer View Post
                  OMG, proud to be a *******? goodluck with that!
                  That is Puga Lederman, PunchesNbuncheS made it official earlier

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                    You have to admit that it's funny people believe Arum, and still think it's not him that is not wanting the Mayweather fight. Not when he could be making massive $ over and over and over again by keeping everything in house and having it all his way.

                    Of course he's going to want this fight again. Another huge boxing event, in which Pac wins again of course and all in house.

                    Anyone that doesn't think Arum had this set out exactly this way, though even he didn't think Marquez would actually win the fight, is a ****ing moron. He's loving this. He could feed this to the public forever and be content until the end of Pac's career when suddenly all the 'obstacles' will drop and the fight between him and Mayweather will be made instantly.

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                      Originally posted by puga View Post
                      good job pac, thats very honest of you......pissdrinker could'nt have possibly won more than 4 rounds...

                      8- 4 pacquaio like lederman had it
                      Wow must be a *******!!!

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