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Originally posted by BennyST View PostYou have to admit that it's funny people believe Arum, and still think it's not him that is not wanting the Mayweather fight. Not when he could be making massive $ over and over and over again by keeping everything in house and having it all his way.
Of course he's going to want this fight again. Another huge boxing event, in which Pac wins again of course and all in house.
Anyone that doesn't think Arum had this set out exactly this way, though even he didn't think Marquez would actually win the fight, is a ****ing moron. He's loving this. He could feed this to the public forever and be content until the end of Pac's career when suddenly all the 'obstacles' will drop and the fight between him and Mayweather will be made instantly.
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PACQUIAO WON DEAL WITH IT *****ES!!! All respectable judges with good reputations... 8 to 4, 7 to 5, and 6 even... It's liable to happen if it goes to decision... Go for the KO and take risk if you felt you were robbed twice before or shut up and lose. This fight wasn't that close... I think a lot of people gave Marquez rounds because he didn't get ran threw like most thought he would. No conspiracy, Marquez was able to win on one judges card in each of the first two fights. What happened in those two fights was that Pacquiao attacked like crazy giving Marquez more chances and Marquez took those chances resulting in the 4 knock downs... This fight Pacquiao didn't attack like crazy and Marquez took fewer chances hince no knock downs and Marquez not winning on any of the three respectable judges scorecards. Plain and simple.... There have been some bad decisions in boxing and even though compu box isn't the gospel its a good indicator. In most fights when people cry robbery the compu box favors the guy the people felt were robbed... Well lets go to the compu box in this one, Pacquiao out jabbed Marquez and landed more power shots but lets not stop there because that was the overal fight. Manny out landed Marquez in 8 of the 12 rounds which is maybe why the one judge had it 8 to 4... Some say that Marquez punches looked better and I agree but a landed punch is a landed punch... A counter punch will always look better and cleaner than a punch against a guy going backwards or in a defensive posture with his hands up.... If you score who landed more pretty punches give it to Marquez if you score the fight for who landed the harder more effective punches and more overall punches give it to Pacquiao....
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Originally posted by wyse View PostThey only showed manny highlights during the rounds even tho marquez landed the bigger shots in the fight
Its no secret that EVERYBODY wanted to see the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight and because of that fight and the money it would generate and just the hype around the world (I mean cmon, they were calling it the biggest fight in boxing history, bar none) Marquez got screwed!
Its completely obvious that HBO wanted Manny to beat Marquez so that the PBF vs PAC fight could get even bigger and the demand for it would go thru the roof for the fight. Las Vegas, The casinos, HBO, Bob Arum,HBO commentators, EVERYBODY sits to make ALOT ALOT of money off of that fight
and because of that reason EVERYONE knew that if Marquez didnt KO Pac they were gonna give it to Pac regardless of whether he won or lost.
When I saw Marquez connecting hard flush shots to Pacs face and then in between rounds they were only showing the half landed shots of Manny and just completely ignoring all the combinations that Marquez was putting on him I knew that they were biased against Marquez and that they were trying to sway public opinion by ONLY highlighting the few punches that Manny landed and not the hurtful shots that Marquez was tagging him with.
That coupled with the completely biased commentators including Steward (who's analysis that night disgusted me because he sits to make a payday if PBF vs PAC fight too) and the rest of those idiots. Even Kellerman who in the past has said that he thought Marquez beat Manny twice before all of a sudden in the third fight (which happens to be the clearest and easiest one to score out of the trilogy) says that he had it a draw?
GTFOHWTS!!!!!! You have to remember that he works for HBO and hes in a pretty good position with them so if he truly speaks his mind like he use to before and especially on the cusp of the PBF vs PAC fight being made, he might have gotten a stern talk as to not try and **** up future $150,000,000 dollar fight with his objectivity.
I feel bad for Marquez, really bad. The man is damn near 40, is a legend, one of the ATG'S, jumped up numerous divisions throughout his career to chase Pac and force him to fight and when they stack the deck against him in the 3rd fight, HE STILL WINS AND THEN THEY ROB HIM!
**** the business, **** the machine, **** HBO, **** Bob Arum (damn scumbag) and especially **** all you fake ass boxing fans that just because you love one fighter you refuse to be a real honest man and stand up for what is right and admit that your favorite fighter just got beat.
Put yourself in his shoes. If you knew, along with the rest of the world that you won including a **** load of pro boxers who had come in your defense and said that you won and that they robbed you and YET you had these ****ing morons like Arum,HBO,Pac and his suppository fanboys (like PUGA) and the rest of those idiots being lil b!tches and not admitting that you won?????
Marquez should hold his head up because the people never forget what they saw! We are the ones who matter not the corrupt books that the decision will go on, WE are the ones who will speak about it for decades. When they talk about this fight in the future when we are all alot older, they will say that Marquez beat Pacquiao but that due to shady business they robbed Marquez but that Marquez could always beat Pacquiao.
If anything Marquez came out the winner regardless of the decision and Pacquaio lost something that night.................He lost his aura of invincibility that Top Rank had so meticulously constructed, he lost alot of fans who believed that he was an honest, humble person when he looked into the camera and lied about winning, he lost my respect because his body language was that of a man who knew deep in his soul that he had just been defeated and even Freddy Roach seemed like that, Ariza seemed like that, everybody in team Pacquiao looked as if they knew they lost that fight and it showed.
Congratulations to the new welterweight champion..........Juan Manuel Marquez, now a 4 division champion. First Mexican to accomplish it!
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PunchesNbuncheS, Sorry Bro but your man lost... He should have fought like a Mexican and left it all in the ring. Risk/Reward baby, if you thought you were robbed in the first two fights what makes you think the third fight would be different??? Manny fought like a Mexican and Marquez didn't. Leave it all in the ring, you might risk getting knocked out but that's part of the game. The judges scored the fight for the guy that threw more and landed more in 8 of the 12 rounds and in the total 12 round numbers WOW!!!! What a shocker to know that the guy that threw and landed the most punches won!!! Go for the KO and if you lose you can say hey, they robbed me I beat the guy a$$ and left it all in the ring... But, you can't cry hey, they robbed me I out counter punched the guy and did every to win short of risk getting hit back. You should cry robbery when you beat a$$ not out counter-punch. Especially if the other guy threw more and landed more in 8 of the 12 rounds and in the total 12 round numbers... It's funny that the guy beat a Mexican by fighting like a Mexican and the Mexican lost fighting like a European counter-puncher.
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Yes, the logic is solid. You throw more, and land more, you win- unless you're Marquez in the second fight, where you threw more, land more, get knocked down and lose three or more points because of it. Punch stats didn't mean jack then, but they mean something now? Oh dear.
I can't subscribe to this BS that you have to "rip a belt away" or "risk getting knocked out" to make sure you win a fight you're already winning??? If you win more rounds than your opponent, you should win the fight, right? Champion, challenger or guy with the fancier trunks. Who cares? Showing bias to a champion is exactly that, bias. Marquez fought an excellent fight, controlled the action and tempo, befuddled Pacquiao and won his rounds convincingly. I couldn't give Pac more than 5 rounds going by what I've watched three times.
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Congratulations to the new welterweight champion, Juan Manuel Marquez
Originally posted by PunchesNbuncheS View PostYup, I noticed that too. Marquez was rocking him with perfect shots right on the mouth and he hurt him more than a few times and those ****ing bastards at HBO didnt even show it in between rounds, all they showed was Manny landing 1 half ass shot that didnt even land perfectly flush like all of Marquez's did.
Its no secret that EVERYBODY wanted to see the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight and because of that fight and the money it would generate and just the hype around the world (I mean cmon, they were calling it the biggest fight in boxing history, bar none) Marquez got screwed!
Its completely obvious that HBO wanted Manny to beat Marquez so that the PBF vs PAC fight could get even bigger and the demand for it would go thru the roof for the fight. Las Vegas, The casinos, HBO, Bob Arum,HBO commentators, EVERYBODY sits to make ALOT ALOT of money off of that fight
and because of that reason EVERYONE knew that if Marquez didnt KO Pac they were gonna give it to Pac regardless of whether he won or lost.
When I saw Marquez connecting hard flush shots to Pacs face and then in between rounds they were only showing the half landed shots of Manny and just completely ignoring all the combinations that Marquez was putting on him I knew that they were biased against Marquez and that they were trying to sway public opinion by ONLY highlighting the few punches that Manny landed and not the hurtful shots that Marquez was tagging him with.
That coupled with the completely biased commentators including Steward (who's analysis that night disgusted me because he sits to make a payday if PBF vs PAC fight too) and the rest of those idiots. Even Kellerman who in the past has said that he thought Marquez beat Manny twice before all of a sudden in the third fight (which happens to be the clearest and easiest one to score out of the trilogy) says that he had it a draw?
GTFOHWTS!!!!!! You have to remember that he works for HBO and hes in a pretty good position with them so if he truly speaks his mind like he use to before and especially on the cusp of the PBF vs PAC fight being made, he might have gotten a stern talk as to not try and **** up future $150,000,000 dollar fight with his objectivity.
I feel bad for Marquez, really bad. The man is damn near 40, is a legend, one of the ATG'S, jumped up numerous divisions throughout his career to chase Pac and force him to fight and when they stack the deck against him in the 3rd fight, HE STILL WINS AND THEN THEY ROB HIM!
**** the business, **** the machine, **** HBO, **** Bob Arum (damn scumbag) and especially **** all you fake ass boxing fans that just because you love one fighter you refuse to be a real honest man and stand up for what is right and admit that your favorite fighter just got beat.
Put yourself in his shoes. If you knew, along with the rest of the world that you won including a **** load of pro boxers who had come in your defense and said that you won and that they robbed you and YET you had these ****ing morons like Arum,HBO,Pac and his suppository fanboys (like PUGA) and the rest of those idiots being lil b!tches and not admitting that you won?????
Marquez should hold his head up because the people never forget what they saw! We are the ones who matter not the corrupt books that the decision will go on, WE are the ones who will speak about it for decades. When they talk about this fight in the future when we are all alot older, they will say that Marquez beat Pacquiao but that due to shady business they robbed Marquez but that Marquez could always beat Pacquiao.
If anything Marquez came out the winner regardless of the decision and Pacquaio lost something that night.................He lost his aura of invincibility that Top Rank had so meticulously constructed, he lost alot of fans who believed that he was an honest, humble person when he looked into the camera and lied about winning, he lost my respect because his body language was that of a man who knew deep in his soul that he had just been defeated and even Freddy Roach seemed like that, Ariza seemed like that, everybody in team Pacquiao looked as if they knew they lost that fight and it showed.
Congratulations to the new welterweight champion..........Juan Manuel Marquez, now a 4 division champion. First Mexican to accomplish it!
Juan Manuel Marquez..... a true living legend !!
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Originally posted by Cuauhtli. View Postthat last quote is hilarious
anyways, the post fight interview with kellerman was all over the place, he didn't even believe wtf he was saying.
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Originally posted by Stl_Buay View PostPACQUIAO WON DEAL WITH IT *****ES!!! All respectable judges with good reputations... 8 to 4, 7 to 5, and 6 even... It's liable to happen if it goes to decision... Go for the KO and take risk if you felt you were robbed twice before or shut up and lose. This fight wasn't that close... I think a lot of people gave Marquez rounds because he didn't get ran threw like most thought he would. No conspiracy, Marquez was able to win on one judges card in each of the first two fights. What happened in those two fights was that Pacquiao attacked like crazy giving Marquez more chances and Marquez took those chances resulting in the 4 knock downs... This fight Pacquiao didn't attack like crazy and Marquez took fewer chances hince no knock downs and Marquez not winning on any of the three respectable judges scorecards. Plain and simple.... There have been some bad decisions in boxing and even though compu box isn't the gospel its a good indicator. In most fights when people cry robbery the compu box favors the guy the people felt were robbed... Well lets go to the compu box in this one, Pacquiao out jabbed Marquez and landed more power shots but lets not stop there because that was the overal fight. Manny out landed Marquez in 8 of the 12 rounds which is maybe why the one judge had it 8 to 4... Some say that Marquez punches looked better and I agree but a landed punch is a landed punch... A counter punch will always look better and cleaner than a punch against a guy going backwards or in a defensive posture with his hands up.... If you score who landed more pretty punches give it to Marquez if you score the fight for who landed the harder more effective punches and more overall punches give it to Pacquiao....
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Originally posted by puga View Post**** that...not until juanMEMO stops crying, he gets no love from me..not that he needs my respect anyways...
that's why you hate? man, boxing has no race. you're entitled to your own opinion but all your posts stink of hate and racism.
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