Saw the fight again and I still have it 8 to 4 Marquez But somebody could make a strong case for a 7 to 5 victory for Marquez.
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostNag, emo is what Manny was immediately after the 2nd and 3rd fightsOriginally posted by LeadUppercut View PostI take it you just met puga, the resident boxingscene clown ?Originally posted by EAAE View Postur a joke lol honest???????? pac knows he lost, please shut up
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post10-10-2011, 10:26 AM #98
Old 10-09-2011, 08:33 PM #40
People probably ain't too enthused on Pac/Floyd no more because of what JMM did to Pac. It's a different between posting as a fan of the sport and just a fan boy. Pac has plenty of them. Arum will keep Pac away from Floyd and should definitely keep Pac away from Martinez. They might kill Manny in the ring.
Imagine what would have happened if that fight was at 140 ?
Easy to see now, why Pac " conceded " a " catch-weight " that he cannot even make himself.
Sergio ?
Personally, I now have no interest whatsoever in that fight.
Pac needs to stay away from Bradley, and line up 2 come-forward plodders to help raise his stock again, then fight Mayweather.
The writing is on the wall.
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the only time Pac was hurt was the rabbit punch and the headbutt
Marquez was running from the first round cuz he was hurt the entire fight
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Originally posted by PennyAnd1 View PostJMM, we love you bro. Thanx for a good fight & for really trying. A draw would be nice, but Pac winning is justified as well. You did really good that’s true. But you’re the challenger going up against the King of Boxing. You gotta do better than edging out by points to win. It’s how the game works bro. You have the right to complain, just don’t sour-g**** it throughout your life time.
And for those who think other-wiser don't know **** about how the game works.
You are a fkn moron if you think that Pacquiao won that fight.
Fanboy clown
Marquez 3-0
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Originally posted by PennyAnd1 View PostDidn't you ****s already learned from this fight? Styles make fights. Floyd>JMM, JMM=Pac, Pac>Floyd.
That means, JMM has a hard time with Floyd's style (much more when he was fatter against Floyd & Floyd cheating the scale), but Floyd has problems with Pac's style (due to resemblence of Zab Judah). I bet you Pac beats Floyd. No easy task but still beatable.
Arum knows that Mayweather will win, Trampler knows that Mayweather will win, Roach knows that Mayweather will win, and Pacquiao likely knows that Mayweather will win.
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Originally posted by oaba09 View PostManny landed more shots and he was the aggresor in the final 4 rounds....the 116-112 score by one judge is a farce but the 115-113 seems reasonable....
Did you just make that up ?
Marquez 3-0.
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Originally posted by Hindsight 20/10 View PostIMO, Pacquiao should have gone for bust - he should've tried more often to engage Marquez to try to make it a brawl instead of a boxing match, which played right into Marquez's gameplan. But with that said, a challenger needs to take the belt from the champion; a challenger needs to prove to the judges (and not the mob) that he convincingly dominated the champion/fight to win. Like it has been said before, the challenger needed to rip the belt from the champion - and IMO, Marquez didn't do enough work to have done such that; to rip the belt from Pacquiao. IMO, Marquez said that he knew that he would not win a close fight, that he would have to go for a KO to win. What I saw was Marquez winning some exchanges with Pacquiao - but not all. IMO Pacquiao was the aggressor/initiator and Marquez was complacent on just being the counterpuncher. Because he was the aggressor, because he was the one that was making his opponent back up for predominantly most of the fight I thought Pacquiao got the nod. Marquez wasn't dominateing the fight, he wasn't aggressive enough to show his dominance over the champion...of which a challenger has to show over the champion IMO. Pacquiao didn't do what he said that he would do, as well as Marquez; but Pacquiao showed more aggression, and fought just enough to keep his belt. I had Pacquiao winning 7 rounds to Marquez's 5. Very close fight but unfortunately, Pacquiao won by a very thin margin.
You are a fkn idiot for trying to tell me that Pacquiao won 7 rounds in that fight, GTFOH kid.
I dont know if I can sc**** together 4 rounds to give to Pac. maybe.
You are a fkn moron to trying to tell me that Pacquiao won that fight, when it was plainly obvious that even Manny knew that he lost.
Marvin Hagler "Disgusting result! #ROBBERY!"
Bernard Hopkins "FloydMayweather blow thru MannyPacquiao easy!!"
OscarDeLaHoya "I'm still sitting on my couch in disbelief. Paquiao cannot compete with a counter puncher like Marquez. Juan has the Patience to wait and capitalize on mistakes. I think this shows how superior mayweather is."
Andre Dirrell "Ok after this fight, I don't know what 2 think! Did JMM just have a good night, or did Pacman put on a great possum show 2 get MW! U TELL ME. GO GET YO GLOVES ON AND COME WHOOP THIS DUDE!!!! PACMAN CAN'T SEE YOU!!!"
ZAB JUDAH "Robbery!!!!"
Steve Cunningham "All pro fighters I know ,guys which know what to look 4 in a fight had jmm winning. It's not just entertainment to us its a #lifestyle#"
Anthonydirrell "If y'all think that they was bout to lose out on 150 million y'all crazy"
Matthew Macklin "It was close but still wrong...and for it to happen THREE times!!!!!?? WTF!!!"
Andre S.O.G. Ward "Well, I was wrong. Marquez is boxing a masterful fight. Marquez won this fight, period!!"
Terry Norris "Wow! Thought PAC man would win. But clearly Marquez was robbed again. PAC did NOT win this fight."
Andre Berto "Smh WOW..... Come on u know Top Rank was gonna let Marquez **** the money up!!! Great fight though"
Omar Henry "Wow I just watched Pacquiao get beat and Marquez get robbed!!!! and yes I was one of the people in the crowd booing the robbery!!!!"
Chris Arreola "Marquez won, true champ. Let's see Mayweather-Pacquiao. ****."
Rashad Holloway "I'm team Pacquiao all day but Marquez won this fight hands down. Sad to see how politics run this sport when fighters work so hard."
Fernando Vargas "Well I'm DISGUSTED at tonight's event. It's sad that u can TRAIN your butt off for months and get jobbed at the end of the day! Truth is that EVERYWHERE Marquez goes EVERYONE will tell him that he WAS ROBBED & HELL FEEL LIKE HE WON BECUZ HE REALLY DID!!! SAME FOR PACMAN. EVERYWHERE HE GOES PEOPLE WILL TELL HIM HE REALLY LOST AND HE GOT A GIFT!!! LOVE THIS SPORT. But this is a SAD MOMENT FOR ME.
#LongLiveDinamitaMarquez"
Juan Diaz "Great fight for the boxung fans but bad decision by the judges."
Amir Khan "mayb a good draw or marquez by 1-2 rounds."
Anthony Mundine "I luv PAC too...but he lost fair & square...but I'm sure he will return stronger...PAC v Marquez 4 #bringit. Actually I change my mind! Marquez deserves the pay day v money!! As he was really the victor! Don't think I wanna see 4. Even tho money."
Erik Morales "Nos robaroooon y feo. Marquez total reconocimiento es el segundo mexicano que le pone en su madre a pacquiao, gano y gano muy bien felicidadees!" Which translates to English as "They robbed us and it was an ugly robbery too. To Marquez total recognition, he is the second Mexican to beat the **** out of Pacquiao, he won and he won nicely. Congratulations!"
Jean Pascal "On my card Marquez WON!!!!"
Kendall Holt "If u thought Pacman won or if Marquez needed the 12th to win its clear u don't know ish about this sport."
Peter Manfredo Jr. "Wow, after watching this, I better not leave it to the judges next week!!!"
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Originally posted by boxer08 View PostOK....HONESTLY......i have had a chance to sleep on this and cool off.....i give the utmost respect to any PAC fans that post and admit they saw PAC get schooled last night. It is what it is.......i respect honesty........The HBO crew, particularly Emanuel Steward came off extremely biased as if they were instructed to. I can't even watch the fight again with the volume on cause it's so disgusting. I am a PAC fan who thought he'd have trouble with Mayweather and possibly pull out a close decision.......I have now think Arum will avoid putting PAC in the ring with Mayweather.....What i watched last night was my favorite FIGHTER......cause he clearly can't box i see now.....lose decisively and drop way down my pound for pound ranks.....it is what it is
It is ****heads like that Penny clown, and puga, that are bad for boxing.
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Originally posted by punchmehard View PostI had Marquez winning BUT for a CHALLENGER to convince the judges that he is worth title is to be more aggressive than the champion especially in close fights like that.
Pacquiao landed punches also but it was Marquez's punches that were cleaner and stood out because everytime he lands, the Mexican fans yell their hearts out bring more hype to the punch.
Like I said, I scored it for Marquez but the judges at ringside who have better boxing eyes that we have might have seen differently than what we see on TV.
It's all said and done Marquez should quit whinning and fight in the welters. He will get more belts with his skill and talent.
MOST pacfans appear to be calling the fight as they saw it, Im shook
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