Call me delusional, but of the rounds you mentioned, I gave JMM 2,4,6, 10, 11, and had 12 even at most. Don't play the "I-know-boxing-and-you-don't" card. You don't need to look at their faces to see who won, look at their punches. JMM land more meaning shots and won the fight. I sure wouldn't want you judging any fight I would watch.
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When i first watch the fight i thought marquez edges pac but after i replay the fight u can clearly see that pac is the winner.
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Anyone who thinks Pacquiao won that fight must have started watching boxing yesterday. The fight wasn't even close, Amir Khan done the UK commentary and was in complete shock cos he had Manny so far behind when it was over. Pacquiao, Roach, Ariza were all panicking & telling Pac he needed a KO in the final round & when the fight ended pac shook his head (cos he knew who won) & his corner looked like they were going to cry & had to console Manny cos they all knew he lost & lost by a wide margin. Marquez controlled the pace of the fight & ring generalship,(yes Manny was aggressive or trying to be but it was ineffective aggression whereas Marquez used controlled educated aggression) in other words he schooled Manny, made him look amateurish, confused and reckless at times not to mention climbing up to a weight Pac is comfortable at & being 38 years old, some fighters just have the other guy's number & Marquez certainly has Pacquiao's number. I thought the Strum-DLH was bad when they only wanted to make the Hopkins fight but this was much worst.
Anyone who thinks Pacquiao won hasn't got a clue about boxing, just go and look at Manny's all the way through the fight up until they gifted him the decision. Who cares now about Mayweather - Pac cos if Floyd schools him which he will, who cares cos Marquez already schooled him.
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Are you sure you watched the same fight the second time? You probably watched Pacman vs. Margarito the second time.
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this is De La Hoya vs Sturm (2004) all over again , except the guy playing Sturm's role (Marquez) is headed to the Hall of Fame, which makes it more sickening the sport would do this to him, especially at this stage of his career at 38 years of age and being a 9-1 underdog, and had to climb 2 divisions and sign to Top Rank in order for the fight to be made.
with that said, blame should also be placed on Nacho (Marquez's Trainer) for his poor advice given to his fighter, how da hell is going to keep telling Marquez that he is winning, when his camp has been robbed vs that same opponent in the past, he should've been telling him things that Jack Mosley told Shane during the De La Hoya rematch, advice him that the only way he will get a win is if he punishes him to a pulp or KO's him, if the bout even resembles something of a close fight, it will automatically go to Pacquiao, him winning benefits the sport of Boxing, it keeps the hope of a Mayweather showdown alive, same as DLH - Sturm, when Sturm got robbed to make DLH - Hopkins possible.
another thing Boxing fans were exposed to, is the Fraud and Liar that is Manny Pacquiao.. they've been drinking the he's a nice guy Kool Aid long enough now, he knows he lost, his wife knows it, Bob knows it, his fans know it, but is he an honest man? no, a ''nice guy'' would admit like a man he lost, not complain of leg cramps that strangely enough only occur to him when he fights Marquez.
if a little counter punching ability, footwork, and high Boxing IQ from a 38 yr old Marquez is too much for Pacquiao, then I'm pretty sure the Mayweather fight never happens, Floyd does what Marquez does except 30 times better and more lethal and accurate. keep that Filipino fraud away from Floyd, it'l be Massacre 101.
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Pac knew he lost, however I had it a draw but could easily have had Pac winning it. The fact that it was that close displays that Pac STILL can not handle a counter puncher. It displays just hoe **** his recent opposition has been and it displays just how bad he would get schooled vs Mayweather.
Nobody can say Mayweather will come out of hiding just because of this performance. He challenged Pac last week just for Pac to mumble for 30 seconds when asked about that challenge. I'm glad Pac won. An old LW schooled Pac. Mayweather will embarrass Pac and the majority of the boxing community understands this now. The hype is over folks.
Mayweather vs Pac May 5th 2012....
However, expect Bob Arum to divert at all costs, yet this time it will be VERY VERY clear he will do EVERYTHING in his power to not make it happen.
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Originally posted by marvin douglas View PostCall me delusional, but of the rounds you mentioned, I gave JMM 2,4,6, 10, 11, and had 12 even at most. Don't play the "I-know-boxing-and-you-don't" card. You don't need to look at their faces to see who won, look at their punches. JMM land more meaning shots and won the fight. I sure wouldn't want you judging any fight I would watch.Last edited by Stl_Buay; 11-13-2011, 12:31 PM.
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Good Fight
It was a very close fight. Manny finally landed more but Marquez shots were more clean. It could have gone either way. Manny should stop making excuses about leg cramps. I had it 115-113 Pacman but a disappointing one for Manny. He was looking for a KO all night, bad decision for him.
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bottom line!! some pretty good and notible judges!! scored it right!
marq coulda won had he pressed and landed more! I was def dumbfounded by the way marq was fighting(excellent) and i tend to pull for the underdog. but some of you apparently kept your eyes on the underdogs (suprising progress) and the champs(lack to leave up to your expectatons) by not demolishing his opponent!! but at the end of the day, i still feel pacq edged marq. and a 4th 5th 6th fight! would still produce the same results aswell!!
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