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Originally posted by Tulisanto View Postwell, i belive him more than i belive your opinion becuase for one, he is credible , you are not. 2 , he has seen more fights than you could possibly watch in your lifetime 3. he is a boxing historian for a reason , and your just a young poster on nsb. youre a kindergarten when it comes to knowldege about the sport compared to him. again , if you think your opinion is right , you have that right but it does'nt make it credible at all. and no sugar had pac in the teens since the cotto fight , so i think pac has moved up since given he has beaten guys like margo ( hwever you wanna downplay it) had 17 lbs over than him , somehthing that is not a simple task to do. pac fought all of them with obviouss size advantage over him and made it look easy will be big factor when everything is said and done.
Like LU said, Sugar had JMM winning both Pac fights you and I disagree with that no? You can't take what Sugar says with gospel...
If you going to mention historians name. That has followed the sport as long if not more so and has just as much if not more so resources than Sugar. Then name credible ones like Rold, Hascup, Cox etc etc...Not cartoonish characters like Sugar or even Silver for that matter.
However, I do respect Sugar...Even though this might come off as if I don't. But, there are much more knowledgeable historians out there. Some that I named. Some who have gotten the best of Sugar in debates.
Hell I will take the opinions of posters like TheGreatA, GJC, and NChristo over Sugar
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Originally posted by Everywhere View Postmaybe it was puga (I think it actually was) but someone was posting about Mosley losing to Winky and they said, "actually he lost to Ronald Wright."...****in check_hooks and puga, same toilet...
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Originally posted by jrosales13 View PostFucking idiots...Sometimes I'm ashamed to be associated with this fanbase
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostI gotta go man, but I will be back tomorrow. The point is, it was not fighthypes opinion, they simply compiled a spreadsheet detailing the recorded facts and figures...... the figures showed that Manny had the second highest recorded weight gain in boxing history, and that he was second only to a guy who finished at HW - which is astounding man, think about it - and he was only second by 1lb, which again, is astounding for a guy who makes his living in the lower divisions.
I dont mean to get into the steroid thing, just the McClarnin comparision, which I believe was waaay off.
Tomorrow ^^
Pac recorded weight gain is 39 pounds.
Duran had 46 pound weight gain(actually weighed in higher, but 166 was his last win of note).
Archie Moore had a 45+ pound weight gain.
Sam Langford 47 pound weight gain.
And, there's others.
Only great fighters have done this. What Pac is doing is incredible...That's why it's hard to not rank him amongst ATG's...You have to be the biggest hatter not to rank him. That's why he's an elite P4P fighter. You have to be the biggest hater not to have him there. I don't care how good Rigendaux, Gamboa, Donaire, etc etc are...They can't compete at WW against even against the opponents that Pac has...For Pac to be able to do it. Show's how amazing he is...Now does he get overrated? Of course. But, everyone does. It depends on who's doing the rating.
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Originally posted by dldwizard View Post^^ you're a pac fan? you kidding me? that's news to me.. really?
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostHey ****head.....
If the OSDT request was just a way for Mayflower to duck that fight, then how come Pacquiao did not call his "bluff" and take the harmless blood test?
Which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?
Pacquiao had his chance, and he didnt want none, so there is no point in continuing to cry about it now, is there?
Unless you were actually present at the negotiaions, you dont know for sure what went on, or what was agreed, or the actual context of that/those meetings. Thing is, your dumb fanboy arse wasnt there, so its probably best if you sit back down with the rest of the shameful parade of bumsniffs who believe every single word they read on Fightshite or every press release from Floyds team.
And whats with this save-a-***** shit? Nowhere is capable of making a **** out of himself without you coming in and doing it for him.
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