Comments Thread For: Arum: Mayweather Refused Pacquiao Singapore Clash

[Everywhere]

Really? Wasn't Junior Jones career done before Pac made any noise here? I think he was at 130 when Pac had his first marquee fight in the States with the Ledwaba win at 122. And, I could sworn that Jones retired like shortly after...I know he wasn't fighting when Pac beat Barrera.

I don't see how he ducked him.

Guzman? Yes. Soto? Eh maybe I give you that. Jones? No way...

Maybe you're confusing him with Tim Austin? Who was arguably the best Bantamweight around this time...Pac skipped 118 and went straight to 122. Some can say he did it to duck Austin...I wouldn't make that argument. But, I think you could make a better case for that then Junior Jones.

Junior Jones was still fighting when Pacquiao had his first fight on American soil...and yes I did totally mean Tim Austin (kinda sorta)...but I was just trolling, so ya got me...

[LeadUppercut]

you wish, if bhop has achived more , he would've been the fighter of the decade but even him admitted pac is the best fighter right now. he even said that srl " with the right game plan" would've beaten pac. key wrod " with the right gameplan" meaning he belives pac ( as small as he is ) would've been a tough fight for the great srl. pac is one of the ONLY 9 fighter of the decade, suck on that punk!

Pacquiao is nothing but an over-rated pu55y, with a list of unanswered questions that happens to be longer than his list of achievements.

You are just another member of the pac-circus, hell, even TheRing had Manny ranked as the #1 ww despite him having never actually having fought a welterweight at 147

Also, even Fischer admitted that he would "seriously reconsider" his vote should Pac fail to step up after his recent string of pillow-fights against sub-par opponents...... which goes to prove one thing..... the fact that the decision could be "reconsidered" proves that Pacquiao was not selected on merit, he was picked on potential, the fact that he is humble, has a lovely smile, is adored by his countrymen, and has a wonderful story.

Hopkins is hands-down a better fighter than Pacquiao, as-is Mayweather, and as-is James Toney. Hell, even Marquez is a better fighter than Pacquiao, because his better resume is legit, whereas Pacquiao's is likely fraudulent.

I hear that they have a new manny-doll down at the toy-store

[jrosales13]

being a lineal champ is being the the winner of division supremacy you dumbass. marquez got owned twice, would have been but one judge got it all wrong with his scoring admittedly. and out of the original 8 weighclasses, pac is a 4 div champ, now go cry a river.

Being the lineal isn't being the best in the division though....He's right in that regard.

For example Margarito with Judah/Baldomir and Toney with Liles/Nunn/Little.

However, what Pac has done is amazing...People can hate on it...It's whatever. But, it's something that it's rarely seen...Only special fighters have accomplished this...

Pac accomplishments and resumes is similar to Jimmy McClarnin. However, Pac is not as great McClarnin...But, their size and how they went up in weight is similar enough that you can make a comparison...

And, McClarning is one of the greatest fighters who ever put on a pair of gloves. So for Pac to be in that company is a great compliment.

[jrosales13]

LOL

You forgot to add the sentence where Pac says "We can negotiate a weight"

FACT

What was he suppose to say?

[SyrianKid]

SINGAPORE AND BOXING

[jrosales13]

Junior Jones was still fighting when Pacquiao had his first fight on American soil...and yes I did totally mean Tim Austin (kinda sorta)...but I was just trolling, so ya got me...

Did you see the Austin-Rafa Marquez fight? My goodness Marquez hit like a truck in that weight-class.

Sorry, you just took me to memory lane. With mentioning boxers from the 90's...My goodness the talent of that era puts this era to shame.

[jrosales13]

SINGAPORE AND BOXING

LOL, WTF is right.

[Tulisanto]

Being the lineal isn't being the best in the division though....He's right in that regard.

For example Margarito with Judah/Baldomir and Toney with Liles/Nunn/Little.

However, what Pac has done is amazing...People can hate on it...It's whatever. But, it's something that it's rarely seen...Only special fighters have accomplished this...

Pac accomplishments and resumes is similar to Jimmy McClarnin. However, Pac is not as great McClarnin...But, their size and how they went up in weight is similar enough that you can make a comparison...

And, McClarning is one of the greatest fighters who ever put on a pair of gloves. So for Pac to be in that company is a great compliment.

no he is not. being the lineal champ is being the best in the division unless youre comparing margo to baldomir. and no, mcclarnin aint greater than pac . thats just your opinion, very minority i might add.

[jrosales13]

no he is not. being the lineal champ is being the best in the division unless youre comparing margo to baldomir. and no, mcclarnin aint greater than pac . thats just your opinion, very minority i might add.

Well you just contradicted yourself right there....So again being lineal doesn't mean you're the best in the division. As you clearly pointed out with Margarito and Baldomir. And, I also gave you Toney and Nunn/Liles/Little or after Toney which was Roy Jones. Roy was better than any lineal champ including Dariusz M.

There are plenty more examples which I can give you really want me to...Where the lineal and best doesn't mean the same. Throughout history.

And, no my opinion about McClarnin being greater than Pac is not a minority opinion. I'm not saying is a right opinion nor am I saying is a wrong opinion. But, it's a opinion which is not a minority opinion.

And, if you really think you can debate about the greatness of both fighters. Then believe me you're more then welcome to. Because, we can absolutely compare their resumes...If you really wanna take it there. Which I don't think you do. So save yourself the trouble.

But, Pac career is not over...We don't know where he would rank. Lets not forget that a lot of people were saying Roy Jones was a top 10 ATG after the Ruiz win...Now? Not so much.

[LeadUppercut]

being a lineal champ is being the the winner of division supremacy you dumbass.

It most certainly is not, you idiot.

A lineal champ, is just the-man-who-beat-the-man, and nothing more.

There are many examples where the lineal champ is not the best in the division. Smarten up and do some homework before you talk ****.

marquez got owned twice, would have been but one judge got it all wrong with his scoring admittedly.

Be honest, you never watched the whole fight, did ya ?

MOST observers felt that Marquez clearly won the fight, and the scoring error was in the first fight you dumbarse..... you know, the fight where Pacquiao knocked JMM down 3 times in the first round and broke his nose and yet STILL couldnt beat him

" we all know who won that fight, Pacquiao got a boxing lesson "
~ FMj

Also, I scored the first round 10-7 because I deducted a point after Pac hit Marquez when he was on the deck. You do know that fighters have been DQ'd for that, right?

How the *** could you start that well and yet not get a win ?

Immediately after the second fight, check out the look on Manny's face before the winner was announced..... he got dished up, and he knows it.

Even Jinkee knows that Marquez won that fight.

Your assertion that " marquez got owned " makes you look like an idiot, because even Freddie Roach disagrees with you on that one.

and out of the original 8 weighclasses, pac is a 4 div champ, now go cry a river.

Only in Pac-land you flag-waving kid. Only in pacland could you find so many ****** people. People who think that pac is a truly great fighter because he is humble, has a nice smile, sings (ahem) great, has been in movies, and will be a politician one day

You keep punching dude.

BTW, how are you getting on with your response to my list of unanswered questions about Pac's resume'? You know, the list that is longer than your arm, and longer than Pacquiao's list of achievements?