Comments Thread For: haye's Lack of Size Cost Him His Heavyweight Dream

[Pirao]

Well in the past heavyweights used to cut weight. Maricano would cut weight and come in light the guy was naturally much bigger than his fight weight. Back in the past coming in light was considered important (by light i do not mean weight drained) Dempsey was another who cut, so its actually difficult to compare the weights of fighter from the past. imo guys like Maricano, Louis and Dempsey would all probably come in around 205-215lb these days.

The reason Haye lost was his technique not his size, to me the size adv Wlad had was not as significant as I thought it would be.

On a totally different note its interesting when you watch some of Vitali's kickboxing fights from when he was 19-21 time the guy was like a bean pole and was around the 190-200lb mark.

What a bunch of crap. Why would they cut weight when doing so doesn't offer any benefits whatsoever and can actually be detrimental to your performance?

[rampant]

Lack of testicles is what costed him his career.

Exactly this.

[bojangles1987]

You're all taking as though Haye did not cut it at heavyweight............wasn't he Heavyweight World Champion after beating 7 foot Valuev? Yes he was!

The man who posted above who said Haye is a natural heavyweight is correct, he is, he always struggled to make Cruiser. He's also taller than people realise.

He's lost 1 fight at Heavyweight to Wladimir..in his first fight against a man that big with skill.

No disgrace in my eyes, at all - comments like f*uck Haye are just ill educated - the man talked so he made money and you're also failing to realise Haye has talked before every fight and delivered on all but 2 ocassions. His persona in interviews is very different to the trash talk, he's a nice guy.

A lot of people beat Valuev. Haye didn't even do so convincingly or impressively. Not exactly something to be proud of.

Haye had a terrible heavyweight career, short as it was.

[dumber79]

You're all taking as though Haye did not cut it at heavyweight............wasn't he Heavyweight World Champion after beating 7 foot Valuev? Yes he was!

alright, i'll give you the valuev fight - even though it was one if the Sh**est hw fights i've seen in recent times, and that's saying something.

so who else is there in this glitering career -

a washed up joh ruiz
monte barret
audrey harrison


and then when he stepped up the calibre of fighter, he got a serious beat-down.....but i suppose that was because of his toe.


you can't polish a turd.

[badnewsbrown]

on a skill level he's better than wlad, there's no doubt about that. wlad has size and knows how to use it very well along with a good jab. haye didn't perform as bad as everyone makes out. he did try but was simply to small to land enough good shots.

[gashalasha7]

on a skill level he's better than wlad, there's no doubt about that. wlad has size and knows how to use it very well along with a good jab. haye didn't perform as bad as everyone makes out. he did try but was simply to small to land enough good shots.

Correct.

But you get too many children on this forum who aren't capable of holding decent discussion.

[gashalasha7]

alright, i'll give you the valuev fight - even though it was one if the Sh**est hw fights i've seen in recent times, and that's saying something.

so who else is there in this glitering career -

a washed up joh ruiz
monte barret
audrey harrison


and then when he stepped up the calibre of fighter, he got a serious beat-down.....but i suppose that was because of his toe.


you can't polish a turd.

You missed the majority of his entire career..at cruiserweight.

A serious beat down?!! Is your name Piers Morgan? More spin than him

[sfalcus]

He is 6"3. Nothing stopping him bulking up and being a huge hw. He chose to come in that light. Poorest of excuses for me...

[Dr. Moneymaker]

Haye lost most of the rounds to Wlad, of course, but a lot of them were close. Haye, to his credit, also took some big shots and didn't seem fazed at all.

His fight with Valuev might have been boring, but his performance was a tactical one and got the job done.

He has talked the talk before every fight and only come up short twice, the rest of the time doing exactly what he said he would.

Ruiz put in a good performance against Haye but was still blown away. He also demolished Harrison; what more do you expect? Same goes for the Barrett fight as well.

Not sure why people overlook his achievements at Cruiserweight. He's the best we've seen at that weight for some time.

[Dr. Moneymaker]

He is 6"3. Nothing stopping him bulking up and being a huge hw. He chose to come in that light. Poorest of excuses for me...

He's never going to out power or out muscle a Klit. It seems sensible to try and use his speed to his advantage, not gain weight and slow down.