Comments Thread For: haye's Lack of Size Cost Him His Heavyweight Dream

[Sadistic]

Wlad has destroyed taller/bigger opponents than himself:

KO 2 Ray Austin 6'7 247






TKO 10 Jameel McCline 6'7 263

[Sadistic]

KO 2 Derrick Jefferson 6'6 260






KO 11 Tony Thompson 6'6 247

[SaintGeorge]

Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye

THE FACTS

Haye was scared shitless. He was afraid to engage with Wlad. He was in survival mode from start to finish. He was running like a scared girl from Wlad the whole fight, flopping like a bitch and taking knees.

Wlad dominated the fight.

Wlad won every round.

Wlad was the aggressor from start to finish. He was the pressure fighter and was coming forward the entire fight.

Wlad boxed beautifully.

Wlad made Haye look like an amatuer.

Wlad threw twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad landed twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad outlanded Haye in every round.

Wlad hurt Haye several times and made him spend the entire fight in survival mode running for his life, flopping like a bitch and taking knees.

Haye was totally outclassed, schooled, beaten up, exposed, dominated and humiliated by Wlad.

I scored it a shutout 119-107

Another masterful dominant win for Wlad.

The little pinky toe was the weakest excuse of all time.

Diva "Excusemaker" Gaye is a joke and a disgrace to boxing.

That's the most biased post I think I've ever seen.

I watched the fight again the other day, the more I see it the more I think Haye just wanted a payday. Had he taken a risk and tried to go at Wlad he might of got the KO, the 4 or 5 times he landed big on Wlad, Wlad didnt want to know. What Haye should of done was take the centre and trade jabs with Wlad, he needed to risk getting knocked out to knockout Wlad, when Haye use to say all these bums fight the same way against Klitschko, well mate you done exactly the same thing, you gave nothing for Wlad to think about and you just let him control the fight. His head reflexes were very good and at times he was making Wlad look ******, but the workrate from Haye was awful and he looked like an amateur winging in with looping rights which were closer to hitting the moon than Wlads chin.

He and Booth got the tactics wrong, he tried to box how he did against Valuev, that was never going to work. If he came out like a raging lunatic in round 1 - 3 it would of given Wlad problems, he'd have to think in the ring , something he doesn't have to do as every fighter fights the exact same way against him, it's as if they're scared to mix it with him. Had Haye got into a punchup with Wlad there would only be one winner with Hayes power and speed, found it odd how people were warning him against that, is Wlad a destructive puncher? Because of what I've seen from him he wears opponents down and stops them late, they're usually tko's and not one punch Ko's either.

[Dave Rado]

DAVID HAYE’S ultimate dream of becoming a boxing legend turned into a weighty problem that became his toughest *opponent.

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It's hilarious. The same people (in many cases) who claim that Dempsey and Tyson and Frazier (all smaller than Haye) would have beaten Wlad in a head-to-head are also claiming that Haye lost only because he was too small. Maybe they've never heard of the word "irony".

[edgarg]

If he was the same size as Wlad, Wlad would still beat his ass. Fight looked like a crude pub fighter vs a boxer, at least when Haye went on the offence.

In terms of slipping punches he did well enough which is why he didn't get broken down and knocked out.

He really didn't slip most of them, he jumped back out of reach. When he tried a bit of flailing, h ended up in a clinch which he evaded by dropping to his knees. Certainly, as a heavyweight his "record" was pathetic. He will only be missed by Booth who got his 20-30% or thereabouts as manager and trainer.he'll likely fold also since I read that some of his already few fighters have left him.

[Dave Rado]

His head reflexes were very good and at times he was making Wlad look ******, but the workrate from Haye was awful and he looked like an amateur winging in with looping rights which were closer to hitting the moon than Wlads chin.

He always fights that way - only most of his opponents didn't have the skills to make him miss so badly.

He and Booth got the tactics wrong, he tried to box how he did against Valuev, that was never going to work. If he came out like a raging lunatic in round 1 - 3 it would of given Wlad problems

If he'd done that he'd have been knocked out early and he knew it. He was hoping that if he survived long enough, at some stage he'd get an opening, but he badly under-estimated Wlad's skills and workrate, as you are still doing.

[Dave Rado]

Haye is much bigger than Ali, he's about the same size as a young "Big" George Foreman.

Dirk are you dis*****g that? Foreman was only half and inch taller than Haye, and against Ali, Foreman weighed 220lb, which isn't so very different from Haye.

[edgarg]

In every other weight class people probably would cut Haye more slack, eg. Manny vs Oscar when he suddenly jumped from 135 to 147, people thought it was ridiculous... a total mismatch... Or when Marquez vs Floyd, people didn't hate on Marquez, they just acknowledged he was too small. But because its the HW division, and because Haye over sold himself (he was his own promoter after all) no-one wants to acknowledge the massive disadvantage he was up against. I don't think he had much of a chance, but he fought the wrong fight and I think he was too wary of Wlad.

30 lbs difference between a heavy punching 215 lb'er and a 245 lb'er is not that much. The heavyweight mantra has always been that "any man over 200 lbs can knock you out".

[Greatwhitehope]

Fairly lolworthy article, he's more than big enough.

[El.Naranjito707]

his lack of heart, balls and opposition is what cost him his dream.