I can't see how Manny could get off against Floyd

[Shogunofharlem1]

"Simple pressure, it's that easy"

A commonly used quote before the Ortiz fight and in many recne tyears actually.

Wonder how long it is before fans realise that just pressure won't cut it.

You need to bring alot more with you along with just pressure to beat Mayweather.

Exactly. You need a controlled pressure for floyd. If ortiz would have picked his shots when floyd retreated to the ropes he would have had much better results than those wide swings.

[THE REED]

Exactly. You need a controlled pressure for floyd. If ortiz would have picked his shots when floyd retreated to the ropes he would have had much better results than those wide swings.

The problem is... when you're "picking" your shots... Floyd is "picking" them off, and picking his own shots.. which are most likely more accurate and better timed.

[Carpe Diem]

I don't see how accuracy can be debatable when Manny isn't even the second best accurate puncher in Boxing. CompuBox isn't all accurate, but anyone who knows Boxing will tell you that Floyd has an easier way of landing his punches cleaner than Manny does.

[D4thincarnation]

Debatable.



Also Debatable... he has more movement, not necessarily more effective.



Against stationary fighters... yes. I will give manny the slight edge here.



Also debatable... the right hand Shane caught Floyd with would rock anyone... doesn't make his chin any worse than anyone else.



The last person Manny knocked out, was the same person Floyd knocked out last, and he did it first.



Not too hard to have a goodworkrate against the likes of punching bag Clottey, come forward Margarito, and flat footed Cotto.



Completely and utterly debatable.



None of these are flat out advantages... they both share the same advantages the two of them have over all their other opponents... not necessarily each other.

You can't say Pacquiao is more accurate than Floyd... even if he was... by how much?

I would say by 2.5%.

Did Shane run from Floyd, he did from Pacquiao.
Pacquiao walked through Cotto's shots, Floyd was stunned by Mosley.
Hatton was frustrated exhausted mess when Floyd KOed him. When Pacquiao did it he was fresh but the results were far more devastating.
Footwork much quick and very effective, one of the main reasons why he can create the angles to throw his punches from. Baldomir much more sluggish and flat footed but not even close to Pacquiao's work rate.

Floyd does have the better defense and has the edge on counters and better body movement, but thats it.

[V.WEBB]

"Simple pressure, it's that easy"

A commonly used quote before the Ortiz fight and in many recne tyears actually.

Wonder how long it is before fans realise that just pressure won't cut it.

You need to bring alot more with you along with just pressure to beat Mayweather.

Right. Pressure isn't at all going to be the way. Especially not with Manny and his size. Floyd thinks alot more now, so for a fighter to beat him, they will have to do alot more than just "simple pressure".

[Shogunofharlem1]

The problem is... when you're "picking" your shots... Floyd is "picking" them off, and picking his own shots.. which are most likely more accurate and better timed.

I am not saying to simply stop but when most guys get him too the ropes he retreates completely, He doesnt really pull a roy jones or james tony.

[viperz007]

The problem is... when you're "picking" your shots... Floyd is "picking" them off, and picking his own shots.. which are most likely more accurate and better timed.

the problem is
u cant pick ur shots easy when theres 3-5 punches covering up ur face,
ur be clinching or covering ur face most of the time to avoid those punches landing on ur face

50/50 fight
either way is d!ckridding

[V.WEBB]

I would say by 2.5%.

Did Shane run from Floyd, he did from Pacquiao.
Pacquiao walked through Cotto's shots, Floyd was stunned by Mosley.
Hatton was frustrated exhausted mess when Floyd KOed him. When Pacquiao did it he was fresh but the results were far more devastating.
Footwork much quick and very effective, one of the main reasons why he can create the angles to throw his punches from. Baldomir much more sluggish and flat footed but not even close to Pacquiao's work rate.

Floyd does have the better defense and has the edge on counters and better body movement, but thats it.

You keep digging a bigger hole in your credibility and knowledge, dude. If you don't like Mayweather or if you're not a fan cool. That's fine and dandy. But don't allow that to cloud your judgement when debating the skills of fighters. At least be realistic.

[WholeSoul75]

if floyd had as much faith in himself to beat manny as floyds fans do..he wouldn't have taken this route.

[Carpe Diem]

I would say by 2.5%.

Did Shane run from Floyd, he did from Pacquiao.
Pacquiao walked through Cotto's shots, Floyd was stunned by Mosley.
Hatton was frustrated exhausted mess when Floyd KOed him. When Pacquiao did it he was fresh but the results were far more devastating.
Footwork much quick and very effective, one of the main reasons why he can create the angles to throw his punches from. Baldomir much more sluggish and flat footed but not even close to Pacquiao's work rate.

Floyd does have the better defense and has the edge on counters and better body movement, but thats it.

So much better and effective that he can't properly cutting off the ring without resetting his movement.