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    #91
    Originally posted by Larryx2011 View Post
    Manny has no jab and a simple left step and floyd will be able to land his right hand on manny all night....see..thats why this fight has to happen so we can see the answer to these questions..i also see floyds jab to the body being effective in this fight

    How will Floyd steping to his left open up the right hand?

    If Floyd jabs to the body, the right hand over the top clocks him ever time.

    Floyd only has one punch in this fight his straight right, it is simple avoiding one punch.

    Pacquiao has the right hook, that will catch Floyd when he throws the jab or the left hook with a little roll under before hand.

    The straight left will catch Floyd as well, he can also double and tripple up this punch which is pretty amazing.

    And when Floyd lands Manny will walk through and fire back. When Pacquiao lands Floyd will go into retreat and reset again.

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      #92
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
      Pacquiao will have to dictate the pace, and control the fight through his footwork. The footwork edge will make the difference because he can fight when he wants to and not when he doesn't.

      Pacquiao also loves answering back when he is hit, if Floyd is throwing he is open and there are not many better fighters that can find the target when the leather is flying.

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        #93
        He could very possibly knock him out.

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          #94
          Mannys work rate will NOT be what it's been, against Floyd.

          Floyd will keep his OWN distance as well.

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            #95
            floyd hasnt fought anyone of pacs caliber

            pac hasnt fought anyone with floyd versatility

            to say it will be an easy fight for either of them is called d!ckridding

            i can give my own point againts the TS also

            pac has this blinding combination that blind his opponents he has this style that while he throws punches it covers ur sight of him
            imagine 3-5 fast punches covering ur sight and going straight to ur face?
            if ur imaginning floyds clinches avoiding all those punches then you are imaginning floyd clinching for the whole round and not throwing punches
            this is one of the reasons they couldnt see where the punches comes because theres a gloves covering their face and then followed up with another gloves then another

            the only way to stop pac from his combinations is throwing ur own fast combination, marquez or morales 1st fight.
            u cant stop him by clinching or covering most of the time or backpedalling

            one more observation i found is floyd loves fighting someone that fights in the inside, coz thats when he makes his shoulder roll effective.
            but pac doesnt fight in the inside. pac does this in and out motion like when his opponent is in the rope he doesnt go dash in and get stuck and tangled with his opponent,
            he takes a step back and look for holes to explore and throw another combinations

            so there thats one of my thoughts

            im not saying pac will beat floyd because of this im just saying it wont be an easy night for either of them as the TS imagined..

            fight is 50/50

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              #96
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              How will Floyd steping to his left open up the right hand?

              If Floyd jabs to the body, the right hand over the top clocks him ever time.

              Floyd only has one punch in this fight his straight right, it is simple avoiding one punch.

              Pacquiao has the right hook, that will catch Floyd when he throws the jab or the left hook with a little roll under before hand.

              The straight left will catch Floyd as well, he can also double and tripple up this punch which is pretty amazing.

              And when Floyd lands Manny will walk through and fire back. When Pacquiao lands Floyd will go into retreat and reset again.


              This guy. Fighting Mayweather is everything BUT simple. And you are kidding yourself if you seriously think that a boxing virtuoso such as Mayweather only has one punch....that is simple to avoid, at that. Heck, Manny has a history of not avoiding straight right hands.
              Last edited by V.WEBB; 09-21-2011, 11:20 AM.

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                #97
                Originally posted by CONQUERING View Post


                This guy. Fighting Mayweather is everything BUT simple. And you are kidding yourself if you seriously think that a boxing virtuoso such as Mayweather only have one punch....that is simple to avoid. Heck, Manny has a history of not avoiding straight right hands.
                "Simple pressure, it's that easy"

                A commonly used quote before the Ortiz fight and in many recne tyears actually.

                Wonder how long it is before fans realise that just pressure won't cut it.

                You need to bring alot more with you along with just pressure to beat Mayweather.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                  Mannys work rate will NOT be what it's been, against Floyd.

                  Floyd will keep his OWN distance as well.
                  ^^ This. Whenever Manny is force to fight at long range, his punching output reduce. He'll move his head and try to close the gap to set up his multiple barrage of punches, but he'll be off balance and i don't think he wants to be against an opportunist like Floyd.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    Pacquiao takes Floyd apart, too many advantages.

                    Hand speed
                    Debatable.

                    footwork
                    Also Debatable... he has more movement, not necessarily more effective.

                    combinations
                    Against stationary fighters... yes. I will give manny the slight edge here.

                    chin
                    Also debatable... the right hand Shane caught Floyd with would rock anyone... doesn't make his chin any worse than anyone else.

                    power
                    The last person Manny knocked out, was the same person Floyd knocked out last, and he did it first.

                    work rate
                    Not too hard to have a goodworkrate against the likes of punching bag Clottey, come forward Margarito, and flat footed Cotto.

                    stamina
                    Completely and utterly debatable.

                    accuracy
                    None of these are flat out advantages... they both share the same advantages the two of them have over all their other opponents... not necessarily each other.

                    You can't say Pacquiao is more accurate than Floyd... even if he was... by how much?

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                      Some advantages Floyd has over Pac that are not debatable.


                      DEFENSE.

                      Real Time Adaptability.

                      Counter-Punching.

                      Setting Traps.

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