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Originally posted by slickfox View Postspoon can you stop dodging and find me one "unbiased official boxing expert" who doesnt think ortiz wanted out of the fight and thinks that he was in there with a chance to win.
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Originally posted by SouthWest Paw View Post*Spoon23's thoughts* .."Damn I don't know what to say anymore.. Let me respond by reposting the video for the 100th time that shows that 1 punch connected and keep saying the same thing.. Damn look at floyd's head snapping like a bubble DAMN he's so ***y ughhhh my ginie tickles."
Geez hahaha! Just one punch landed for victor, how ***** can you be.. This guy will discredit everything even if the evidence is already clear as day Floyd's head got tagged so many times in this round.. And he calls it just one lol, maybe you got things in the wrong manner. It was Floyd missing al ot hitting air and leather, if there is a fighter who connected less in this round it should be Floyd. Victor had flurries connecting a lot evident with the number of whiplashes Floyd's head received.. His head getting tagged like a bubble head over and over..
You know you should just shout out to the world "I'm gay and I'm a proud *****!" lol..
watch it again bro, if you still counted 1 landed punch by Ortiz. You must not really know how to count hehe!
Last edited by Spoon23; 10-01-2011, 11:57 PM.
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Originally posted by slickfox View Postspoon can you stop dodging and find me one "unbiased official boxing expert" who doesnt think ortiz wanted out of the fight and thinks that he was in there with a chance to win.
No one was in control of that fight yet. Not Floyd nor Victor. The fight was just heating up..
Btw, If you still have question. You seem to like going in here.. there's 40 plus pages to read on.. All your inquiries are there. This is my last post to you
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Originally posted by lacson View PostThis video validates what I thought I saw at the time. Mayweather had those impressive combos during the first half of the round, but I thought most hit gloves or missed. This video proved it. Also I thought the most defining punch of the fight before the sucker punch was Ortiz right hook catching May as he was ducking forward. Again this video proved that. Ortiz realized right away he landed a hard punch and put on the pressure, Mayweather also felt that one as he scrambled backwards towards the rope in his shell defence.
Good work.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostYup that right hook that caught may made Ortiz realize to put some gas on the pedal.. He pressured may at the ropes with barrage of punches. Never seen Floyd get hit cleanly with a lot of punches in 1 round.. Victor round indeed.
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Originally posted by SmoothMon View PostSooooo, u guys are debating the fact victor screwd himself by butting floyd after landing clean n stopping his own momentum or the fact he was winning the round making that fact worse? Btw victor was hurt in the 3rd, bad enough to where he buckled n hoped on his skates.. no threads on that is it?
But in a perfect world we could have gotten a great fight. Evident to how victor was building confindence and hanging tough in there up to the fourth round and could really see him winning the 4th..
The fight was just starting to become a fight..
Btw, never did Ortiz buckled in there. At the start he was covering his head with his gloves on high Guard as seen in the video making Floyd miss and hit air and leather, Floyd got frustrated and pulled Ortiz down to hunch down making you think he buckled, but obviously he wasn't and was gaining steam evident to the barrage of punches ortiz followed through. Making floyd shake his head and acknowledge Ortiz that you got me there boy. Then another barrage before the head butt happened hit Floyd good. Deadly bombs were thrown.. I'm sure Floyd didn't like getting hit like that.. All on slowmo bro.
Watch it again. Ortiz high Guard was good enough to block Floyd's shots.. Pretty good defense by Ortiz in this round.. Floyd hit air and leather for most part of the 4th.
Bottom line it was shaping into a great fight.. No one was in control at that point.Last edited by Spoon23; 10-02-2011, 01:51 AM.
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Ortiz was fighting hard but was losing every round. Floyd out landed Victor in every round and was landing the more clean damaging shots. That cannot be argued. Even with the headbutts and rabbit punches Ortiz was still taking more damage. Do you say someone won a round because they did better than the last round ? I do not. If you lose the round, then you lose the round. Period.
Now, was the fight warming up? If you call Ortiz becoming more desperate warming up, then I say yes. But Victor did not show in the 4th round that he was changing the trajectory of the fight with the way he was fighting. All Victor showed was that he was becoming increasingly frustrated that he was not doing more damage to Floyd. I would have enjoyed more rounds of the fight, but Victor checked out mentally. So, Let it go. Victor went as far as he could go mentally in that fight against someone like Floyd. If Victor believed he was doing as well as you thought he was then he would not have given Floyd that 1960 NFL spear job. That 4 rounds pushed Victor into a corner mentally. Sorry, he cracked. And you know the rest.
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Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop View PostOrtiz was fighting hard but was losing every round. Floyd out landed Victor in every round and was landing the more clean damaging shots. That cannot be argued. Even with the headbutts and rabbit punches Ortiz was still taking more damage. Do you say someone won a round because they did better than the last round ? I do not. If you lose the round, then you lose the round. Period.
Now, was the fight warming up? If you call Ortiz becoming more desperate warming up, then I say yes. But Victor did not show in the 4th round that he was changing the trajectory of the fight with the way he was fighting. All Victor showed was that he was becoming increasingly frustrated that he was not doing more damage to Floyd. I would have enjoyed more rounds of the fight, but Victor checked out mentally. So, Let it go. Victor went as far as he could go mentally in that fight against someone like Floyd. If Victor believed he was doing as well as you thought he was then he would not have given Floyd that 1960 NFL spear job. That 4 rounds pushed Victor into a corner mentally. Sorry, he cracked. And you know the rest.
In this video shows how many times floyd's head snapping and you can't even give credit were credit is due? You can argue floyd won the first three rounds, but the 4th round seeing how many bombs Ortiz hit him with. It would be crazy to think floyd won that.
Floyd was missing terribly in the 4th. He was hitting gloves, and air. Props to victor's high guard defense in there, If the fiasco didn't take place. Victor clearly was winning that round.. Never seen floyd's head turn into a bubble head before.. It's sad seeing it whiplashing like that. Painful just watching it really. He is defintely hittable nowadays evident to this video of the 4th. Lost a step or 2..
Here watch again in slwmo.. should see it clearly it's in slwomo lol
Last edited by Spoon23; 10-02-2011, 04:29 AM.
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