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Many boxing fans will be surprised to see Ortiz be very competitive against Floyd.

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    #11
    Originally posted by Konstantin View Post
    You don't think Floyd is fundamentally sound enough/ ring smart enough to compensate for his physical decline like Hopkins?
    Ray Robinson was fundamentally sound - why didn't he fight as long as Hopkins?

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      #12
      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      I agree. Not sure why so many feel as if Floyd is unbeatable. Father Time beats everybody. Maybe it won't be Ortiz but it's any day now. Once a fighter nears 35, it's best to stop laying bets on them.
      Tell that to Sergio Martinez and Hopkins..I don't see Mayweather slowing down for years to come. Even if he does, he's fundamentally sound.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Carpe Diem View Post
        Well, I'm not one of these fans who feels that way. However, Floyd is not shot yet even though he's slower and not as sharp(aging factor), and his father time will come soon. But as of right now, i just don't see it yet.
        I can't tell. I haven't seen him fight in a year and fighters get old overnight (or so it looks).

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          #14
          Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          Ray Robinson was fundamentally sound - why didn't he fight as long as Hopkins?
          His head wasn't in the game.

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            #15
            Originally posted by right_hand_lead View Post
            Tell that to Sergio Martinez and Hopkins..I don't see Mayweather slowing down for years to come. Even if he does, he's fundamentally sound.
            Mayweather shows more signs of slowing down than Martinez does IMO. Not everyone is the same. Like I said...maybe it's not Ortiz. Just like it wasn't Ruiz for Jones. But it's coming--the signs are there.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Konstantin View Post
              His head wasn't in the game.
              He wasn't as good either. It happens to pretty much everyone.

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                #17
                I would be amazed if it was competitive. It wont be though, its a **** fight, pointless.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  He wasn't as good either. It happens to pretty much everyone.
                  So how's Hopkins doin it?

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                    #19
                    He looks unbeatable against old bums and he's been fighting old, shot, small bums for so long that people think he's really unbeatable.



                    I predict Ortiz will kick his ass, win or lose.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Konstantin View Post
                      So how's Hopkins doin it?
                      Hopkins is the exception not the rule. For every BHop there are about 500 other fighters who are ripe for picking by the time they're 35.

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