Gerorge Foreman: Wlad won't leave much of a legacy in boxing

[JAB5239]

Abusive posts, trolling, name-calling, stalking, having an agenda, these aren't exactly qualities I would think Reeno wants in someone representing his site.

Lol, ok, we'll see.

[Mr. Invincible]

Still waiting

I'm sorry, you're not quite on my level apparently. I'm not really going to gain anything by enlightening you. Have a nice day.

[D4thincarnation]

I'm sorry, you're not quite on my level apparently. I'm not really going to gain anything by enlightening you. Have a nice day.

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What technical improvements has Wlad made over the last 7 years?

[JAB5239]

Wlad has not improved technically? So, 14 wins in a row, 11 in title fights against almost all top ten contenders & 10 by way of KO is not proof enough of technical improvement in your opinion? Okay, wehatever you say.

Being dominant and improving are two different things. He's dominant because the division is weak. He has digressed because he relies solely on the jab, is afraid to get hit, never works the body and doesn't have a killer instinct. These are the reasons Steward gets so frustrated with him. He's got the talent, he just won't tap into it.

[JAB5239]

So, how are you being objective about the Klitschko's? The one bs post you dropped about Wlad being a top 15 atg? Don't make us laugh. I'm actually starting to get embarrassed for you at this point.

How am I not being objective. Everything I have pointed out is a fact.

[ChopperRead]

Agassi's body broke down on him in his 30's that is why he retired. Things can still be accomplished, but you're not as physically gifted as you were in you 20's.

Agassi retired at age 36 and he was the #1 player in tennis as late as age 33.

He was written off by many after falling to No. 141 in late 1997, rededicated himself and reached No. 1 in 1999. Agassi won more grand slam titles, the most coveted titles in tennis, after age 29 than before it.

Which just goes to show that your attempts to generalize are EPIC failures.

[Mr. Invincible]

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What technical improvements has Wlad made over the last 7 years?

That's ok, you have no business speaking to me if you don't know what technical improvements Wlad has made since being beaten by Brewster, etc.

[Steak]

I dont think that Wladimir has improved that dramatically technically. He always had talent and could place his punches well.

I think the change he made was more strategic. and it worked out very well for him. Before he was actually an offensive machine, great to watch...now he paces himself much more, and fights more defensively. Also he seems to automatically slump on top of opponents at close range, much like Lewis used to do...Its probably all Mannys fault. Its smarter and makes him a better fighter however.

But in terms of technical aspects, as in his arsenal of punches and how sharp they were? I dont think its that huge a change. If you watch his earlier fights, hes just as technically sound as today.


Theres a difference between skill and strategy to me. And Wladimir made more of a strategic change. and that greatly lessens then chance of another Brewster or Sanders situation, although its not always the best to watch.

[JAB5239]

Agassi retired at age 36 and he was the #1 player in tennis as late as age 33.

He was written off by many after falling to No. 141 in late 1997, rededicated himself and reached No. 1 in 1999. Agassi won more grand slam titles, the most coveted titles in tennis, after age 29 than before it.

Which just goes to show that your attempts to generalize are epic failures.

Nobody said an athlete is dead after 30, only that they physically digress. And nice try with the "Agassi won more grand slam titles, the most coveted titles in tennis, after age 29 than before it." He was born in 1970 and won grand slams in 92', 94', 95', and twice in 1999 before the age of 30. He then won in 2000, 01' and 03'. So quit your lying. He was also retired from a broken down body at the age you call your heroes prime. NEXT!!

[Jim Jeffries]

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What technical improvements has Wlad made over the last 7 years?

I think he has considerably better control of distance than he used to, much more experience with top level southpaws, doesn't tire (by controlling the pace and improving his endurance) as much, and while he throws considerably fewer power punches than he used to, he also gets hit a lot less. In the process he's become less entertaining, but it's foolish to say he isn't harder to beat.

You still haven't answered my question, how far back do you think his prime goes? Because surely length of prime factors into the evaluation of someone's career.