Gerorge Foreman: Wlad won't leave much of a legacy in boxing

[Klitschko2011]

Foreman is a jealous delusional moron. His Wlad-Haye scorecard was a fucking disgrace. I think he's upset and bitter because Team Klitschko closed the door on him and made him wait outside during the entrance.

Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye

THE FACTS

Haye was scared shitless. He was afraid to engage with Wlad. He was in survival mode the entire fight. He was running like a scared girl from Wlad the whole fight and was flopping like a coward whenever he got close to Wlad or when he was hurt by Wlad's punches.

Wlad dominated the fight.

Wlad won every round.

Wlad controlled the entire fight.

Wlad was the aggressor from start to finish. He was the pressure fighter and was coming forward the entire fight.

Wlad made Haye look like an amatuer.

Wlad threw twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad landed twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad hurt Haye several times and made him spend the entire fight in survival mode running for his life and flopping like a coward.

Haye was schooled, outclassed, beaten up, dominated and humiliated by Wlad.

I scored it 119-107 for Wlad.

Another masterful dominant win for Wlad.

That clueless moron Foreman can go fuck himself.

[ChopperRead]

Foreman is a jealous delusional moron. His Wlad-Haye scorecard was a fucking disgrace. I think he's upset and bitter because Team Klitschko closed the door on him and made him wait outside during the entrance.Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye

THE FACTS

Haye was scared shitless. He was afraid to engage with Wlad. He was in survival mode the entire fight. He was running like a scared girl from Wlad the whole fight and was flopping like a coward whenever he got close to Wlad or when he was hurt by Wlad's punches.

Wlad dominated the fight.

Wlad won every round.

Wlad controlled the entire fight.

Wlad was the aggressor from start to finish. He was the pressure fighter and was coming forward the entire fight.

Wlad made Haye look like an amatuer.

Wlad threw twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad landed twice as many punches as Haye.

Wlad hurt Haye several times and made him spend the entire fight in survival mode running for his life and flopping like a coward.

Haye was schooled, outclassed, beaten up, dominated and humiliated by Wlad.

I scored it 119-107 for Wlad.

Another masterful dominant win for Wlad.

That clueless moron Foreman can go fuck himself.

Something must have happened because Foreman was quoted in an article before the fight saying the K-Bros were great fighters.

Either that or George is being George and saying different things depending who he is talking to.

Foreman and his Arthur Abraham sidearm wide punching style got exploited by Ali and he would get KO'd vs Wlad or Vitali.

[JAB5239]

After turning 29, Agassi won 5 of his 8 grand slams, at a period according to YOU when he should have been well past his prime and deteriorating.

He was #1 in the world at age 33, according to YOU during a period when he should have been sliding down the world rankings.

Agassi, who you obviously know nothing about, did this with amazing dedication to physical training with Gil Reyes and strict adherence to good nutrition, much like Wlad has done with David Williams.

So your contention that an athlete is inevitably bound to decline after his mid-20s is BUNK, as is almost everything you present as "fact."

If Agassi was broken-down by age 36, it was the result of so many years on a brutal nearly year-round tennis tour which makes the schedule of boxers look like a holiday in comparison. But again, you know nothing of which you speak.

My conclusion is that you are a nearly psychotic invdividual who is obsessed with continually "proving" himself on the internet, despite the fact that he gets spanked over and over again.

The fact that you stalk people who disagree with you is troubling, and indicates that you should not be allowed near firearms, because at some point you are going to snap and either injure yourself or someone else.

I have alerted the proper people as to your activities, and hopefully something will be done with you soon.

You have given me exactly ONE example and the guy was broken up and retired at 36. You've ignored my post on world class sprinters all being in their mid 20's with guys in their mid 30's seldom even competing any more, why is that?

And there have been many great athletes past age 30. But that doesn't mean their body wasn't in decline. How many running backs are great in their mid 30's? How about NBA players? Hockey players?

Now on the flip side.....how many great athletes have we seen retire in their 30's? Why do you think that is?

You can't change the facts kid no matter how much snitching and whining you do. Trust me, I'll be here long after you're banned.

[Klitschko2011]

Someone needs to tell that ****** Foreman that boxing is about HITTING AND NOT GETTING HIT. Wlad has MASTERED the sweet science.

Foreman can't hold Wlad's jockstrap.

Facts about Wladimir Klitschko:

- IBF/WBO/WBA/IBO/RING Unified Heavyweight Champion of The World

- Most dominant Heavyweight Champ of all time

- Olympic Gold Medalist

- 56 wins, 49 knockouts

- has defeated 10 world champions

- has defeated 9 undefeated fighters

- has defeated tons of top contenders

- has made 17 dominant title defences

- he will break Joe Louis' title defence record

Wlad would be too strong, too athletic, too fast, too smart, too skilled and too powerful for the dumb slow one-dimensional punching bag Foreman.

Wlad dominates Foreman.

The Klitschkos are the negrocutioners.

Wlad and Vitali are the two greatest heavyweights of all time.

Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.

[JAB5239]

- he will break Joe Louis's title defence record.

Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it. And two things to remember, first Louis did it consecutively 25 time, Wlad can't. Second, Louis was the only champion his entire reign while Wlad has never been the unified and only champion.

[ChopperRead]

You have given me exactly ONE example and the guy was broken up and retired at 36. You've ignored my post on world class sprinters all being in their mid 20's with guys in their mid 30's seldom even competing any more, why is that?

And there have been many great athletes past age 30. But that doesn't mean their body wasn't in decline. How many running backs are great in their mid 30's? How about NBA players? Hockey players?

Now on the flip side.....how many great athletes have we seen retire in their 30's? Why do you think that is?

You can't change the facts kid no matter how much snitching and whining you do. Trust me, I'll be here long after you're banned.

You're the one who made the sweeping generalizations. I said that declne such as you mention isn't inevitable, and can be reversed for a time via training and nutrition. That's so obvious I wouldn't have thought it needed to argued about, but then, you are an irrational person with some ego-driven agenda that the rest of us can only guess at.

Your obsessive need to have the last word even when you've been spanked would be funny if it wasn't so troubling. Unlike you, I'm not on here 24/7 and do have a life outside of this forum, so you can keep embarrassing yourself if you like, I'll catch up later on.

[JAB5239]

You're the one who made the sweeping generalizations. I said that declne such as you mention isn't inevitable, and can be reversed for a time via training and nutrition. That's so obvious I wouldn't have thought it needed to argued about, but then, you are an irrational person with some ego-driven agenda that the rest of us can only guess at.

Your obsessive need to have the last word even when you've been spanked would be funny if it wasn't so troubling. Unlike you, I'm not on here 24/7 and do have a life outside of this forum, so you can keep embarrassing yourself if you like, I'll catch up later on.

No, you said Wlad wasn't in his prime at 27 and 29 years of age when it is a fact that is the time men are at their physical peaks. Reflexes don't get better with age any more than an elastic ban becomes stronger and able to stretch further.

Ok than, you got nothing for me and can't argue against my facts. Cool!

[ChopperRead]

No, you said Wlad wasn't in his prime at 27 and 29 years of age when it is a fact that is the time men are at their physical peaks. Reflexes don't get better with age any more than an elastic ban becomes stronger and able to stretch further.

Ok than, you got nothing for me and can't argue against my facts. Cool!

I knew it. Before I log off he's at it again.

Yes, I said that as well. And it's obviously true when you look at this record and what he's done post Brewster 1 that he didn't enter his "prime" until he started started the training/nutrition regimen he's currently on.

Agassi proved that one can create a later career "prime" through dedication and willpower, and Wlad has done the same. No-one said it was easy.

Have fun spending all your Saturday night on the internet, and stay away from firearms.

[New England]

Holyfield and Rahamn sure, also his fight with Vitali was a barnburner whilst it lasted, but i don't put much stock in the Tyson fight. It's probably close to a decade removed from Tyson's prime, and at least 4 or 5 years removed from when he was still a very good HW.

agreed


i think wladimir stops that same tyson as well

wears him down with the jab after weathering what really wasn't tremendous offense at that point in tysons career

finds the right hand
and eventually stops him.


haye and ibragimov were both fleet of foot
tyson really wasn't at that stage in his career


prime tyson knocks wladimir out in (no joke) less than three rounds

[JAB5239]

I knew it. Before I log off he's at it again.

Yes, I said that as well. And it's obviously true when you look at this record and what he's done post Brewster 1 that he didn't enter his "prime" until he started started the training/nutrition regimen he's currently on.

Agassi proved that one can create a later career "prime" through dedication and willpower, and Wlad has done the same. No-one said it was easy.

Have fun spending all your Saturday night on the internet, and stay away from firearms.

Changing to a safety first approach because you're afraid to get hit isn't entering your prime, its wasting your natural talent. And you still haven't given me that definitive list of athletes who were better in their 30's than they were in their 20's, or explained why so many athletes retire in their 30's. I think we all know why.

You go have fun at the roller skating rink and the arcade now, ok? :haha: