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    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. was a massive quotebook during the New York City press conference to announce his fight with Victor Ortiz, which is scheduled for September 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. From Ortiz, to ex-promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank, to steroids, and of course Manny Pacquiao - Mayweather gave more than enough quotes to go around.

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    heh. all this tells me is that floyd is subconsciously admitting that he believes he'd lose to Pac should they face each other.

    and the important thing is that he subconciously believes he'd lose to Pac EVEN if Pac isn't juicing, since he'd like to lose to a clean fighter.

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      Originally posted by bluetuazon View Post
      ok so lets say pac took the test and passed with flying colors.......would u become a fan??? or will u still find fault in him....just a question sir...
      If Manny Pacquiao did this, I would have nothing to say and would give him full props for doing so BUT until he does. I believe he is either hiding the fact that he is dirty or does not want to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. Every boxer said that they would take it except Pac? Mosley took it, now Ortiz. Cotto questioned Pac. Martinez said he would take it. all of these great fighters and big names have no problem with it except the supposedly P4P best fighter in the world with the squeaky clean image? Come on man! This ain't even about hating on Manny Pacquiao. This is about **** is nonsense denying to take additional tests to make a fight happen. Pac fans want us to believe that Floyd is scared of Manny by asking for the tests? How could that be when Manny didn't want to fight Floyd because of the tests? That was all it took to get Mayweather in the ring and Pac said no! Not because of the tests but simply because he would not know when he would be tested? Is it really that obvious?

      Now people are booing Floyd telling him to fight Manny and all Floyd has been saying is that if Pac wants to fight. All he has to do is take the damn tests. How can anyone be mad at Floyd? Dude is telling Pac what he needs to do to fight him. Can't be a lie because Mosley and Ortiz did and are doing it. Also, why do people take Floyd words out of context so much? He said if he loses to anybody he doesn't want that loss to be tainted by steroids. I don't blame him for feeling like that. It's funny that people are on Floyd's case but not Pac's, who clearly held up the fight by refusing nearly 3 years ago? Goes to show what a lil media influence and manipulation can do to the minds of the general public.

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        Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
        heh. all this tells me is that floyd is subconsciously admitting that he believes he'd lose to Pac should they face each other.

        and the important thing is that he subconciously believes he'd lose to Pac EVEN if Pac isn't juicing, since he'd like to lose to a clean fighter.
        psychology 101 gets another one

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          Originally posted by jtiger777 View Post
          the same people who make the rules on weight penalties
          the commission... NSAC rules ===> 20% of guaranteed purse maybe impose...

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            Originally posted by sapaw View Post
            the commission... NSAC rules ===> 20% of guaranteed purse maybe impose...
            Manny Pacquiao is scared of needles and to give blood without knowing. What logical person would see this as being brave?

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              Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              Manny Pacquiao is scared of needles and to give blood without knowing. What logical person would see this as being brave?
              who said pac was scared of needles?

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                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                Manny Pacquiao is scared of needles and to give blood without knowing. What logical person would see this as being brave?
                care to share a link that Pac said that? lol! or you want a link that shows your ******ity? ooops! no need, its on my sig! hahahha

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                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                  " connection " ?

                  Hmmm, just confirm for me, is the following statement factually correct ?

                  FACT: The only time that Pacquiao is known to have been tested clean for a fight, he lost?

                  Where the *** were you going with that one dude ?
                  You really have comprehension Problems.
                  Let me try to explain it clearly for you, genius.
                  They tested Pac without warning and it was not because of OST so he was totally unprepared. If he was using that would have been the best time to catch him. They found him CLEAN. Then he lost. Pac's conclusion; he lost because he became weak from blood extraction. That belief has stayed with him since then.
                  Do you get it now? If you still don't get it, then there might not be any hope for you.

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                    Originally posted by sapaw View Post
                    care to share a link that Pac said that? lol! or you want a link that shows your ******ity? ooops! no need, its on my sig! hahahha
                    See, if you followed the sport of boxing in a whole you would know that he did say that he was uncomfortable with needles and giving blood weakens him moron. Do you actually think that sig makes me ******? If so, then you are REALLY reaching because I can sig up MANY dumb posts from Pac fans. Fact of the matter is that Bob Arum will sacrifice his mother to Manny Pacquiao for the right price and what I meant by "sacrificing Canelo" is actually considering wanting to put him in the ring with Manny whether he be with Top Rank or Golden Boy. Either way it wouldn't be a legit fight for Pac or Floyd.


                    Manny Pacquiao is a fraud.....


                    He said testing was going to be to close to the fight and that he was afraid of needles. There is nothing in that video that would point to the fact that he is afraid of needles. In fact he looked very comfortable giving blood. He also stated that Mayweather was asking for the blood to be taken to close to the fight.


                    "The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that.

                    Promoter Bob Arum, who represents Filipino fighter Pacquiao, says using blood test for the fight in Las Vegas is unprecedented, and says Pacquiao believes giving blood within 30 days of the scheduled fight would weaken him.

                    When HBO televised "Pacquiao/Hatton 24/7" -- the four-part series that followed the buildup to Pacquiao's second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton to win the junior welterweight title in Las Vegas last May -- it aired footage of Pacquiao taking a routine blood test as part of his prefight medical exam in Los Angeles.

                    The blood test was conducted 24 days before the fight; it punches holes in Pacquiao's argument that giving blood inside 30 days of a fight negatively impacts his performance.

                    "I will transmit it [word of Pacquiao's '24/7' test] to Manny once [HBO Sports president] Ross Greenburg establishes the actual date of the test in '24/7' and [the Mayweather camp] makes a proposal based on what Ross has come up with," Arum told ESPN.com from Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. "If that happens, I am sure I can convince Manny" to tighten the testing window.

                    Although talks had broken down on Sunday, the camps were at least talking again on Monday afternoon after they learned of the "24/7" scenario.


                    "It's a very good point to point out that Manny was tested so close to the [Hatton] fight," Arum said. "I'm not going to suggest anything to him though, until I hear from the other guys. They have to say, 'This is what Manny did. Here is what we propose.' Then I will bring it to Manny and say, 'Manny, look, you took this test however many days before the fight and it didn't affect you. Hey, you knocked him out in two rounds.'



                    Pacquiao and Mayweather had agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather also insisted on random blood testing, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, requires only urine testing.

                    Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want blood testing but later relented and agreed to three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.

                    When they could not come to an agreement, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, which represents Mayweather, turned to a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who had successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy in 2007.

                    But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp.
                    Talking about I'm ******? Your an IDIOT for believing Manny Pacquiao and his stooges.
                    Last edited by GRUSTLER; 06-30-2011, 06:32 AM.

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                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      See, if you followed the sport of boxing in a whole you would know that he did say that he was uncomfortable with needles and giving blood weakens him moron. Do you actually think that sig makes me ******? If so, then you are REALLY reaching because I can sig up MANY dumb posts from Pac fans. Fact of the matter is that Bob Arum will sacrifice his mother to Manny Pacquiao for the right price and what I meant by "sacrificing Canelo" is actually considering wanting to put him in the ring with Manny whether he be with Top Rank or Golden Boy. Either way it wouldn't be a legit fight for Pac or Floyd.


                      Manny Pacquiao is a fraud.....













                      Talking about I'm ******? Your an IDIOT for believing Manny Pacquiao and his stooges.
                      Corrections:
                      1) Pac never said he was afraid of needles. Ellerbe started that lie (see N.Y. Times article-Dec. 23, 2009).
                      2) There was a stalemate in the negotiations regarding cut-off date. After NINE HOURS of mediation with no progress, Pac's team decided it was useless to continue.
                      NINE HOURS! That is longer than a days work! And still no progress. It could have been a month and there would still be no progress. Both sides refused to budge further.

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