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    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    We can go on for days about this but all I have to say is that now that Floyd is back. We will see what's real and what's fake between them two.
    BOTH of them are champions, BOTH of them have issues.

    My only hope is that BOTH of them would resolve their issues and get it on.... eventually, before they're too old to carry gloves in a fight.

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      Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
      BOTH of them are champions, BOTH of them have issues.

      My only hope is that BOTH of them would resolve their issues and get it on.... eventually, before they're too old to carry gloves in a fight.
      that what I am saying. We will see who wants the fight and who doesn't. Hopefully it happens but if it doesn't. We will see who don't want it.

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        Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
        that what I am saying. We will see who wants the fight and who doesn't. Hopefully it happens but if it doesn't. We will see who don't want it.
        hopefully, we shall. personally, i would very much prefer they fight.

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          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          See, if you followed the sport of boxing in a whole you would know that he did say that he was uncomfortable with needles and giving blood weakens him moron. Do you actually think that sig makes me ******? If so, then you are REALLY reaching because I can sig up MANY dumb posts from Pac fans. Fact of the matter is that Bob Arum will sacrifice his mother to Manny Pacquiao for the right price and what I meant by "sacrificing Canelo" is actually considering wanting to put him in the ring with Manny whether he be with Top Rank or Golden Boy. Either way it wouldn't be a legit fight for Pac or Floyd.


          Manny Pacquiao is a fraud.....













          Talking about I'm ******? Your an IDIOT for believing Manny Pacquiao and his stooges.
          hahaha! your a lot ****** that I thought! no where on that that Pac himself said he is afraid of needles! hahaha! ****** moron!... anyway, check my sig! hahaha

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            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            that what I am saying. We will see who wants the fight and who doesn't. Hopefully it happens but if it doesn't. We will see who don't want it.
            who took the long vacation and said there were no 2nd negotiation while the President of HBO admitted there is? And Oscar himself said its almost done??? ow... he was misquoted....

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              Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
              7 days is less than 30 days right? so what's the big deal? why not give Pac the 7 days he's asking for? And correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the last week right before the fight the time fighters actually use to tone down from training?

              floyd at one point in time was willing to give him 14 days.

              14 days!

              but now, when Pac is asking for 7 days its totally unreasonable?
              Do you even know how PEDS even work moron. PEDS don't make you stronger on their own. They help your body recover faster so you can make quicker gains. Taking PEDS during your recovery stage will allow someone to recover much more faster which yield in higher gains. You gain muscle and strenght during the recovery stage of training not during training idiot so to say that taking PEDS at the last week during your pre peaking period will not make a differences is ******.....

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                [QUOTE=Brother Jay;10767447]Oh I see ... you're making this about the KO instead of recognizing that Pac has used his power to be formidable rather than his boxing skills. Forest for the trees????

                What Pacquiao did against DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito and Mosley ALL had to do with power, not boxing ability. All Pacquiao does is jab, jab, straight left. Yet the simple sequence seems to surprise all of his opponents!




                Pacquiao got his ass wupped against Morales in the first fight. He didn't look anything like himself. It wasn't a tactical changed that occurred. It was the level of energy he came in with in the fights that followed that made the difference. Pac ain't outboxing most of the guys he fights. He outpaces them because he doesn't get tired despite the weight gain.



                Its not so much that he's gotten faster as much as he's maintained the same exact speed that he had at the lower weights as he has now at 147. The weight gain hasn't slowed him down. He's gotten stronger in the sense that he shouldn't have been able to stand toe to toe with DLH, Cotto, Margarito or Mosley. I understand that he used catchweights to weaken some of them, but still ... the guy is maintaining attributes that always diminish when coming up in weight.

                Its crap and anyone honest with themselves knows that.




                this guy just contraticted everything that he posted that i responded to. C'mon son! 1st you say Pac is ko'ing bigger guys, i counter that it was hatton and maybe cotto who he ko'd then you wanna he out power punched em when the fact of the matter is that he was just faster then them cats...
                2nd, you say Pac got his ass whooped in the 1st fight with morales(imo i thought it was a pretty good and close but definite win for Morales...but forgot to mention that Morales had fought a ton of wars and it was bound to catch up to him, not to mention that morales lost to raheem in between
                3rd you accuse pac of becoming faster, now you say its not so much about him being faster? damn, you sure you alright there son?

                and since pac fights year 'round and he's agreed to the tests verbally....let me ask you something. if the fight happens and pac tests clean and if, and thats a big if, he wins, what are you going to say then? you gonna accuse him of some other **** too?

                As i've said before, i'm a boxing fan 1st & i'm for testing across the board for boxing as a whole.....

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                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                  WHO FKN CARES ?

                  Pac-clowns, stop with your whiney bull**** ?

                  HUNDREDS of first class athletes and olympic trialists will take those tests over the next two years, and none of them have a history of doping.

                  So fkn what ?

                  WHat the hell does that have to do with it ?

                  Mayweather has never tested positive, and yet he is happy to take the test.

                  That is just a childish whiney excuse.

                  " mommy, I dont want to take a bath, I'm not dirty, and Timmy doesnt have to take one ".

                  Grow up kids, blood tests are harmless.

                  You guys have been coming up with whiney excuses for 3 years now, so I gotta ask ya..... do you guys intend to spend the next three years of your life coming up with more bull**** excuses as well?
                  c'mon son, i'm for testing, just not accusations and assumptions, especially when NOONE was saying anything about this until the mayweather clan started bringing it up....you included

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                    Originally posted by mrlopez View Post
                    c'mon son, i'm for testing, just not accusations and assumptions, especially when NOONE was saying anything about this until the mayweather clan started bringing it up....you included
                    Your just a Pachugger if you think that people are being su****ious about Pac because someone said so. IT WAS MANNY'S REFUSAL TO BE TESTED IS WHAT MADE PEOPLE SU****IOUS NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT SOMEONE SAID!

                    Check out this "Friends" episode clip to get an idea how the rest of the world ,that is not in Pacland, see how Pac's stands on testing looks.

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                      Originally posted by tatangb45 View Post
                      You are the one who is not making sense. You sound exactly like Floyd. You keep repeating the same mantra of "take the test, take the test". You keep ignoring what came directly from Pac," I want to prove that it wasn't me who didn't want the fight. That's why I made the concession to take anything(blood Test) he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round".
                      According to some, it's not good enough that it's on video - it should be in writing. If it was in writing, they would be screaming for a video. Now there's a video and it isn't credible because it wasn't a POPULAR website. And then you've got some that say it doesn't count until he signs the contract. The point is EVERY PERSON WITH EYES CAN SEE THAT HE SAID IT! PERIOD. Who gives a **** who posted the video, it's still Manny Pacquiao saying it. For the love of God, you don't have to like or even respect the man but how can some of these people come up with the "Well, that doesn't count because"... it just sounds desperate and lame. Like I said, people don't have to like him, that's not what I'm saying - it's just these people who spend so much of their personal energy with these "yea, but" excuses, it's just beyond comprehension.

                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      All I'm saying is, what's the big deal? Pac took a test less than 30 days before the Hatton fight, trained in 100% degree weather at Wild Card Gym and still KO'd Hatton in 2. Pac said giving blood weakens him?
                      Convenient you left out a crucial part of the quote, Grustler. Pac said giving blood "SO CLOSE TO A FIGHT" weakens him...

                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      After Floyd beat Shane, he said "No cut offs". Pac says he agreed to no cut offs as well but somebody on his team said Pac agreed to 7 days? Floyd fought Shane in May 1 2010 and Pac told Khan that he is not mentally ready to take the tests. Why should I believe Manny wants to really take the tests if he is not mentally ready to do so? I pulled out more than enough articles to prove the dude is lying and back peddling. Instead of reading and acknowledging what it is, Pac fans what to come on here and get at me for stating the obvious.
                      Again with the conveniently leaving out part of the quote, Grus. It's from your own quote you just posted a couple of posts up. Pac told Khan that he is not mentally ready to take these tests "EVERY DAY" It may not seem like a big deal, but it changes the context of the meaning of the sentence in a big way for sure. THAT's the kind of thing that's frustrating, you can put a post out and call it facts, but then repeat it so it's missing key elements of the original quote and it gets taken as gospel... It creates a cycle where people start passing it on inaccurately and it gets interpretted totally out of context. So much exagerations from people, like how a 2 yr and 3 month negotiation is 3 years, and a 37 year old turning 38 in 3 months gets called a "40 year old". It's just staggering how people think a little thing like 8/9months or 2/3 years gets discounted as nothing if the agenda suits their purpose.

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