James Toney VS. Wladimir Klitschko

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Who would you rather be stopped by. For me, it'd be Lennox and Maskaev, rather than Sanders, Brewster, and Peter. None of those shots Peter landed on Wlad landed flush on the chin like Sanders' did, when Wlad takes a decent shot flush on the chin his fragility is revealed. Luckily he's with Steward and together they've put together a fighter who knows how to defend his chin by using the ring. I think Wlad has what it takes to be among the top three HW's for years to come.

Against Puritty and Brewster:

Punches were not the cause of Wladimir losing. He gassed himself out, and his legs were jelly from fatigue. He held up to their shots perfectly fine, and even wanted to continue fighting when it was stopped: Heart.

Against Sanders.....he was cold ****ed for the first time in his career, and he still rose off the canvas after eating shots from one of the hardest punching southpaws the division has to offer. He still wanted to continue: Heart.

Against Peter.....he was hit behind the head illegally, in turn losing his equilibrium. He rose from the canvas 3 times because he wanted to continue: Heart.

As for the bolded.....he's taken plenty of hard punches on the jaw from big hitters. Mercer, Mcline, TOS (even though he was flash floored when off balance) etc. I agree with Steward's sentiments...in that his chin is nothing to worry about.

Lennox Lewis: "We're in the heavyweight business. One punch can end the fight"

Wladimir Klitschko: "Believe me. Anyone over 200 lbs can get you....so chin: I don't know."



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[SquareCircle]

watch toney-robinson

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Against Puritty and Brewster:

Punches were not the cause of Wladimir losing. He gassed himself out, and his legs were jelly from fatigue. He held up to their shots perfectly fine, and even wanted to continue fighting when it was stopped: Heart.

Against Sanders.....he was cold ****ed for the first time in his career, and he still rose off the canvas after eating shots from one of the hardest punching southpaws the division has to offer. He still wanted to continue: Heart.

Against Peter.....he was hit behind the head illegally, in turn losing his equilibrium. He rose from the canvas 3 times because he wanted to continue: Heart.

As for the bolded.....he's taken plenty of hard punches on the jaw from big hitters. Mercer, Mcline, TOS (even though he was flash floored when off balance) etc. I agree with Steward's sentiments...in that his chin is nothing to worry about.

Lennox Lewis: "We're in the heavyweight business. One punch can end the fight"

Wladimir Klitschko: "Believe me. Anyone over 200 lbs can get you....so chin: I don't know."

None of them caught Wlad like Sanders did, it's all a matter of timing it properly and catching the big man on the chin, and the Toney-Robinson fight is a good example for you to watch it and see Toney on the inside coming out of a defensive position with a perfect left hook on the chin, Wlad could not survive that punch. Toney wouldn't survive a flush cross from WK either, but the chances of Toney landing on Wlad are much higher than Wlad landing on Toney.

I'd rather have KO losses to Lennox and Maskaev on my record than one KO loss to Sanders and run out of gas vs Brewster.

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watch toney-robinson

You can't compare Robinson to Klitschko.

That's like comparing Reggie Strickland to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

But I see your point.....about timing. Wladimir would never fall into that trap however. He's way too skilled and smart.

but the chances of Toney landing on Wlad are much higher than Wlad landing on Toney.

I don't know about that.

Wlad is one of the most accurate punching bigmen of all time. He knocks the gaurd down with the left hand sweep, then lands the right hand flush.



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[SquareCircle]

keep in mind im not saying toney could KO wlad because he defeated robinson..dont mix things up


it's just a good example of a pinpoint accurate punch that would end wlad, yet one rahman could handle himself through.

[BrooklynBomber]

I would say toney gets ****ed up.
His short little hands just wont find the target.

[beez721]

None of them caught Wlad like Sanders did, it's all a matter of timing it properly and catching the big man on the chin, and the Toney-Robinson fight is a good example for you to watch it and see Toney on the inside coming out of a defensive position with a perfect left hook on the chin, Wlad could not survive that punch. Toney wouldn't survive a flush cross from WK either, but the chances of Toney landing on Wlad are much higher than Wlad landing on Toney.

I'd rather have KO losses to Lennox and Maskaev on my record than one KO loss to Sanders and run out of gas vs Brewster.

not me,,,Id rather be punishing a guy and running out of gas do to throwing too many and losing as opposed to being knocked out of the ring and corey sanders is a much more dangerous puncher in the first 2 rounds than maskeav. and do we forget rahman was also beaten by ruiz and an ancient holyfield? and the post about toney being to knock out wlad is laughable. toney cant pop a zit at heavyweight and would get beaten as badly as byrd if he ever fought wlad

[Konstantin]

keep in mind im not saying toney could KO wlad because he defeated robinson..dont mix things up


it's just a good example of a pinpoint accurate punch that would end wlad, yet one rahman could handle himself through.

In the end this poll is about what is most likely to happen and if you think the most plausible and possible end to the fight is a Toney KO you need to get your head examined.

[SquareCircle]

unfortunately for toney wlad would command the clinch and probably catch toney behind the head on the break with the cross while he tries to slip away

[beez721]

I don't buy that.

Rahman was knocked into the third row against Maskaev.

Rahman was knocked out cold by Lennox, in turn racking up one of the most brutal highlight reel knockouts of all time.

Wlad was knocked down by Sanders, Brewster, and Peter multiple times....yet he managed to rise off the canvas because he has something Rahman doesn't:

Heart.

I agree. wlads chin ir better than rahmans;. rahman has been "knocked out" literally whereas wlad has gone down but always popped back up. its wlads mental fragility thats the problem. hes so paranoid about getting caught that he lets punches affect him more than they should. as teddy atlas pointed out last night,,,wlad doesnt have a glass chin,,,,but a glass brain. hopefully he'll be more relaxed now since his last fight..hes by far the best heavy as far as talent goes,,,if he was as tough mentally he'd be unbeatable with lewis now retired