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This will be a good fight and I also like how Ortiz is talking. That being said, there isn't a single boxer between 140-154 that can give Mayweather or Manny problems. These two guys are the best and maybe having their fights so close to each other means they will finally fight. Ortiz is a good boxer and showed a lot against Berto but the only guy that we all know can give Mayweather hi first lost is Manny.
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Originally posted by BesWorldChamp View PostI've come to the realization that when someone discredits almost all of a fighter's opponents, it is highly probable that the poster has a strong bias. Here is a perfect example. This post is foolish.
I don't care for Mayweather the person, but I am very excited to see Mayweather the boxer back. Much respect to Floyd for selecting Victor Ortiz as his comeback opponent. Can't wait for this fight.
Saw the long post and thought it was directed towards me.
Sorry about that.
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You are out of your mind if you don't give Ortiz somewhat of a chance here. The version who showed up against Berto would be a problem for any welter today. Both Berto and Ortiz have flaws but they are also big, strong, fast, young welters. Ortiz fought fire with fire and won. I'm not so sure Floyd can do the same and it'll be pretty rough in the early going. It's been sixteen months. He is 34. It catches up with you at some point, usually when no one is suspecting it.
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That's right, Mayweather is in for vicious beating. Can't wait till Ortiz becomes boxings next super star. WARR ORTIZ!!
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Originally posted by beatnutts View PostThis will be a good fight and I also like how Ortiz is talking. That being said, there isn't a single boxer between 140-154 that can give Mayweather or Manny problems. These two guys are the best and maybe having their fights so close to each other means they will finally fight. Ortiz is a good boxer and showed a lot against Berto but the only guy that we all know can give Mayweather hi first lost is Manny.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostYou are out of your mind if you don't give Ortiz somewhat of a chance here. The version who showed up against Berto would be a problem for any welter today. Both Berto and Ortiz have flaws but they are also big, strong, fast, young welters. Ortiz fought fire with fire and won. I'm not so sure Floyd can do the same and it'll be pretty rough in the early going. It's been sixteen months. He is 34. It catches up with you at some point, usually when no one is suspecting it.
There is nothing Ortiz can do that will discourage Floyd, nothing.
However, Ortiz can very easily be discouraged by Floyd. Ortiz is very inconsistent one day he looks like an elite fighter(Berto) then the next he looks like meh(Peterson)
Ortiz has the tools, but you need more than just tools to beat Floyd. You need intangibles and I don't think Ortiz has any. showing it and doing it against Berto is one thing, showing it and doing it against Floyd it's a whole different level.
If Ortiz has proven to be mentally strong on a consistent basis then I would give him a hell of a chance. But, he hasn't proven that yet.
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