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    #21
    I like Pacquiao, but like dude said above me, its another one of those fights.

    This fight should have happened right after the second fight. Pac should be fighting someone like Bradley, Ortiz, Martinez (if Pac can win a title at 154, he should be able to defend it), and of course, Mayweather.

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      #22
      Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
      I find it funny that this thread is started by a b-hop who is complaining about Manny fighting a smaller guy.


      This fight is no different than B-hop fighting
      Winky @ LHW
      Pavlik @ LHW
      Oscar @ MW


      Manny does it once, against a guy who is the same size and it's a crime against boxing. Hopkins has made a career outta it and it's the greatest thing since slice bread. God I love double standards.
      excellent example, I give Hopkins little to no credit for his win over DLH either, because DLH was obviously blown up and not a natural MW, and should have been 0-1 there with a loss to Sturm at that weight!

      same thing with Marquez, at Welterweight he is not a good fghter, and I wont give Manny much credit at all for beating him there.

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        #23
        Its a sham and a shame..
        *******s will say the fights ok because they are the same size, but they know damn well Pac has grown into a full welter now and JMM hasnt nor has the body for that weight. He looked like a bloated little piggy vs Mayweather

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
          I find it funny that this thread is started by a b-hop who is complaining about Manny fighting a smaller guy.


          This fight is no different than B-hop fighting
          Winky @ LHW
          Pavlik @ LHW
          Oscar @ MW


          Manny does it once, against a guy who is the same size and it's a crime against boxing. Hopkins has made a career outta it and it's the greatest thing since slice bread. God I love double standards.
          Ur off topic & being biased seeing only what U like & besides ur completely off topic.


          Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
          I was actually against this fight, but I actually want to see it for the simply fact that Marquez is the only fighter 135-154 that will have the heart and skills to compete with Manny.

          I know Marquez will come to fight and not try to run and survive like Manny's last opponents.
          Yeah,this was ******.Complete & utter nonsense.Maybe U've heard of a feller named Martinez,or Floyd & I bet if team Pacman thought they could beat the Punisher(who would have made 147)for the fight it would have happened.

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            #25
            marquez has been getting hit alot more in his past 2 fights, alot more than usual, its evident hes out of his prime and he wont be comfortable or any more explosive at this weight, he will put up an okay fight but in the end its another win for pac, he may KO marquez

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              #26
              Originally posted by -Top Rank- View Post
              Everyone involved says both guys are the same size. Have been saying this even before the third bout was discussed.

              Arum
              Roach
              Berstein
              Marquez
              Ariza

              even Floyd has said this. I can't think of anyone who claims they aren't the same size, but continue with your trolling


              Trolling? Oh my bad, Mr. Intern.

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                #27
                Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
                Yeah, but you also need to understand that Diaz and Katsidis both have extremely similar styles. Both are inside pressure fighters. Thus Marquez was getting hit alot more. Pacquiao isn't that kind of pressure fighter that'll come at you nonstop. Especially against counter punchers. He's more of the straight forward one two kinda of guy.

                This is a completely different style match up. Pacquiao is still a linear fighter, but now he knows how to use his right hand better than before, but that won't make much of a difference here, especially if Marquez decides to not lead which was his mistake in the 2nd fight and several other fights. If he decides to just box and not make a war and get excited like he tends to do, he'll out box Pacquiao and it'll be fairly one sided aswell.
                Yes a completely different style in the form of a man whose jockstrap neither Katsidis or Diaz could sniff. A man who dropped a younger Marquez four times using his style. Against an older, slower, fading Marquez. Not a chance.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JOM'S View Post
                  lolz haters will just keep on hating, i see another call for boycott, hehe how many fights pac that was boycotted and well had around 1 million hits?

                  anyway this fight is not comparable to mayeather-marquezm this is more interesting as both fighters have history and unfinished business...

                  War PAC! War JMM!
                  if pac was a real man he would have fought him at 140. Make the fight a little more competitive but once again he has to have all the advantages and then his minyons will scream how he is the all time great after yet another sham fight
                  thats 6 in a row manny
                  thanks

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
                    When I look at all the people who are against this fight, they're the same people who constantly said on this forum and several others before the 2nd fight that Marquez was too old, Pacquiao is stronger, Pacquiao has improved alot more etcetc. Then we all saw what happened there. Marquez is gonna come to fight, and to the people who don't think this is competitive, you're being fooled by media. You're being fooled by Pacquiao's last performances. You need to look at this from a stylistic stand point.

                    This is gonna be a competitive hard fought fight. Not a boring one sided one.
                    I agree as there was similar talk prior to the second fight about Manny's improvements and how he was going to blow out Marquez and we saw what happened.

                    This fight will lets us know if Manny has improved or is a product of careful matchmaking/cherry picking.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Yes a completely different style in the form of a man whose jockstrap neither Katsidis or Diaz could sniff. A man who dropped a younger Marquez four times using his style. Against an older, slower, fading Marquez. Not a chance.
                      Yeah, he knocked him down 3 times in the first fight. Then what happened in the next 11 rounds?

                      He knocked him down once in the 2nd fight, then what happened for those other 11 rounds?

                      Marquez wasn't in his prime in 2008, yet he still out boxed Manny. Almost everyone thought Marquez won the fight by at most 3 rounds.

                      What's your point? His style hasn't changed, Marquez can make adjustments. Can Pacquiao?

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