How do fight fans feel about Pacman Marquez at welterweight??

[Khalid X]

I ordered Mayweather vs Marquez just like I'm gong to order Pacquiao vs Marquez III.

I really don't get the point of making these weak statements/stands because every fighter in the history of the sport has done what people bash Manny and Floyd for.

People think I hate on other fighters but the truth Is I point out similar scenarios to expose alot of hypocrites/trolls on this site.

FWIW I have no issue with any fighter facing smaller guys who are moving up in weight to challenge them. For every unsuccessful fighter that has failed when moving up in weight, there are guys like Greb, Roy, Manny, Armstrong, Robinson, Langford etc that had moved up in weight and dominated bigger opponents. That's what great fighters do and there have been guys, even in modern time, that have overcame the weight disadvantage (which is only 2-3 ****ing lbs at most) than Marquez will have to face.

[jrosales13]

And Arum has made it clear that will be the next fight if Manny vs Floyd can't get made.

I still don't get why people expect Manny to face elite fighters each and every time he steps in the ring. No one does that, and even at that....Clottey at WW isn't a bad fight, Margarito isn't that bad of a fight and the only one I can agree with being terrible is Shane buts its still no different than what any other champ has done.....face a guy that is top 5-8 in his division.

I really don't get all the complaining because it's not like Manny is turning down Berto for somone like Andeji Agadjo or Mark Meligen. Is there really that big of a gap in the talent level between a Shane Mosley and Andre Berto or Timothy Bradley and Juan Manuel Marquez? Even then Manny will more than likely face Bradley next as Arum is pretty set on making that Manny next oppenent (If Floyd keeps playing around).

Oh Arum said that really? He made it clear? Oh man let me get excited now. Yea the same man who said that Mosley looked ish against Mora so he won't be fighting Pac next. And, then next thing you know he's fighting Pac next. Yea that same Arum said it. The Mr. "I was lying yesterday, but telling the truth today" said it? Yea he made it clear that Bradley is next. But, when Pac fights Judah or Cotto next. We going to hear "oh Bradley is going to be the fight in the fall"

LOL @ Margarito not being a bad fight. OK....

[$tate of Mind]

And Arum has made it clear that will be the next fight if Manny vs Floyd can't get made.

I still don't get why people expect Manny to face elite fighters each and every time he steps in the ring. No one does that, and even at that....Clottey at WW isn't a bad fight, Margarito isn't that bad of a fight and the only one I can agree with being terrible is Shane buts its still no different than what any other champ has done.....face a guy that is top 5-8 in his division.

I really don't get all the complaining because it's not like Manny is turning down Berto for somone like Andeji Agadjo or Mark Meligen. Is there really that big of a gap in the talent level between a Shane Mosley and Andre Berto or Timothy Bradley and Juan Manuel Marquez? Even then Manny will more than likely face Bradley next as Arum is pretty set on making that Manny next oppenent (If Floyd keeps playing around).

Please, when is the last time that Manny fought an elite fighter? He's had 3 easy fights in a row.

[Khalid X]

because Tim Bradley is this elite fighter that Manny needs to take a few easy fights before he brings him up to welter weight right.


BTW how did Tim Bradley looked in his one and only WW fight?

So now your gonna use the Abregu fight as to why Manny vs Bradley @147 isn't that good? Unbelievable........smfh.

[IronDanHamza]

at least both of you know what's up. are you guys honest enough though to admit that you did buy floyd-jmm? i did not buy that ppv but i'll probably buy pac-jmm because pac's my guy. you can call me bias if you want that's fine and i've probably voiced out my negative opinion about floyd-jmm once or twice before but i did not have to post it at every possibel thread like some posters are doing. it's so pathetic...repeating yourselves over and over again. that's some ****ed up hidden agenda bull****.

I'm from the UK so we got it for free. But I probably would have brought up. I would most likely buy all of Pac and Floyd's fights if I had to. That doesn't make it a legit fight, though.

Hidden agenda? I have no agenda. My view is anyone who fights Marquez above 135 isn't going to get any credit. No agenda, just completely black and white.

Oh, you have only voiced your opinion "once or twice" about Marquez-Floyd? I would argue that is just a slight understatment there.

[Phenom]

So now your gonna use the Abregu fight as to why Manny vs Bradley @147 isn't that good? Unbelievable........smfh.

you said Bradley is this elite fighter Manny needs to take couple of easy fights before right?


Bradley vs Manny and/or Berto vs Manny should have happened before Marg fight was even considered stop making excuses and call it like it is.

[Bushbaby]

My bad to the homey Walt,Bojingles & Jro,U all do keep it real.

To the rest,I've always said that Floyd deserves no credit for beating Marquez at welterweight.Check my post history to confirm.As I stood then,I stand now,if Floyd don't get no credit,neither should Pacman.

It's simply amazing at how much pacman fans are willing to accept from him.If most claim to acknowledge his cherrypicking of late,then why can't he be passed up as pfp #1 & why would he be considered as great as claimed when he's doing what he's doing??

[hbstowe]

Where did I call Pac a coward? Pac is a cherry picker so is Floyd but I can admit that, that's the difference between me and you. Why can't Pacquiao simply fight a legit opponent who has put together a string of impressive wins? Why keep fighting aging past prime fighters when there are guys like Bradley, Ortiz, and even Khan out there?

dont worry your boys bradley and ortiz will get their share of a beating soon. by the way anymore slick african american fighters you want pacman to fight. coz the last one was so easy.

[Khalid X]

Oh Arum said that really? He made it clear? Oh man let me get excited now. Yea the same man who said that Mosley looked ish against Mora so he won't be fighting Pac next. And, then next thing you know he's fighting Pac next. Yea that same Arum said it. The Mr. "I was lying yesterday, but telling the truth today" said it? Yea he made it clear that Bradley is next. But, when Pac fights Judah or Cotto next. We going to hear "oh Bradley is going to be the fight in the fall"

LOL @ Margarito not being a bad fight. OK....

The only issue with Margarito was the fact it was a fight for the title at 150 (unless your one of those whiney Cotto fans who were crying he should be banned for life).

Margarito loss to Mosley, big deal. Several fighters have bounced back from worse, but I guess one fight makes you garbage as a fighter?

And as far as Cotto or Judah being next, when that happens then we can talk, but from all indications it looks like it will be Bradley.

[IMDAZED]

you said Bradley is this elite fighter Manny needs to take couple of easy fights before right?


Bradley vs Manny and/or Berto vs Manny should have happened before Marg fight was even considered stop making excuses and call it like it is.

What are you talking about? Manny-Margarito was a good fight, everyone knows that.