i think manny will be training to counter fmj's left jab to the midsection, and let the fight flow from there....
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
you got it all wrong duckweather will not lead... gayweather will be looking to counter. so it's not a matter of can pac counter maynever's punches, but can trollweather counter pac's punches.
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Originally posted by JudgeDredd2011 View PostI agree! Pac can take Floyd's punches. He will not hesitate... or even need to test if he can take it like what he did with Cotto. Pac can just press forward all night. Pac doesn't need to counter because Pac will initiate contact!
Here's the scenario:
1. Pac comes in with a 5-7 punch combo. In the middle of the action Floyd counters with a 1-2 punch that Pac doesn't even feel
2. Repeat all night (I don't want a KO .. I want to see Floyd's face like Marg).
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Originally posted by skillswin View Postif marquez and morales can counter pacman, floyd sure can do it, but faster and with better defend
sure... but if you open up... you risk getting hit by pac... mosley knows this first hand, that's why he put on his running shoes and ran for the 12th round.
marquez got put on his azz 4x, and pac alone has KOed morales.
and duckweather chin is good but not great (as he got rocked by mosley, judah, and corley). guess what mosley, judah, and corley has that allowed them to put gayweather in ***** street (aka ellerbe's butt)? speed, speed, speed, and that's what pac got in spades.
what makes pac different from mosley, judah, and corley is that pac hits a lot harder and he doesn't get tired.
*****s talk a bigger game than trollweather can put up.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
sure... but if you open up... you risk getting hit by pac... mosley knows this first hand, that's why he put on his running shoes and ran for the 12th round.
marquez got put on his azz 4x, and pac alone has KOed morales.
and duckweather chin is good but not great (as he got rocked by mosley, judah, and corley). guess what mosley, judah, and corley has that allowed them to put gayweather in ***** street (aka ellerbe's butt)? speed, speed, speed, and that's what pac got in spades.
what makes pac different from mosley, judah, and corley is that pac hits a lot harder and he doesn't get tired.
*****s talk a bigger game than trollweather can put up.
Having said that, I do believe that Pac would win the fight...on the odds. But's its still dangerous.
Mayweather dodges Pac...this is a fact. But, don't underrate Floyd. That's a no no.
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Originally posted by Wiley Hyena View PostMaybe so, but you're so biased (which is also understandable). Give Floyd his due: assuming he's still on top of his game, his counter is one of the best in the game. This is a major problem when Pac lunges in. You cannot assume Pac can always take the perfectly timed counter because it largely depends upon whether or not he sees it coming. All I have to do is refer to Hatton's experience with Floyd.
Having said that, I do believe that Pac would win the fight...on the odds. But's its still dangerous.
Mayweather dodges Pac...this is a fact. But, don't underrate Floyd. That's a no no.
no one is underrating gayweather... but if he opens up, he will get caught. once he tastes the power, I don't think he'll want to get hit again and he'll run. all defensive-minded boxers will go into a defensive shell or get on their bike once they get hit by pac.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
no one is underrating gayweather... but if he opens up, he will get caught. once he tastes the power, I don't think he'll want to get hit again and he'll run. all defensive-minded boxers will go into a defensive shell or get on their bike once they get hit by pac.
you think floyd will be there toe to toe with pacman??
pacman dont know how to cut the ring
floyd will fight in defensive mode going to the body 1-2 to the head then clinching fighting inside ect ect boxing school
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Originally posted by (ROY) View Postyou guys are sure making excuses
The issue of over training was actually brought up even before the fight since Pacman's training camp was going along without the usual distractions. If you follow Pacman's fights you know the difference. No excuses. Just a lesson learned.
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Originally posted by skillswin View Postyou think floyd will be there toe to toe with pacman??
no, he is too scared to go toe to toe with pac. he was willing to go toe to toe with mosley, but no way will he fight that way with pac
pacman dont know how to cut the ring
why would pac pursue all out when he's fighting counterpunchers? he's trying not to get caught with something big.
floyd will fight in defensive mode going to the body 1-2 to the head then clinching fighting inside ect ect boxing school
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