Pacquiao? Is he quick enough to counter Floyd's straight right and lead upercut?

[letsgobrady]

Floyd's money punches when he gets in to a rythym is the straight right hand, and lead Hook. Do you think Pacquiao is fast enough to counter it?
Im sure Freddie Roach and Pac would work hard in training camp to try and counterpunch this when Floyd throws it. Floyd when he throws the lead upercut, looks open to a counter right hook. That's if his opponent is quick enough to time and land it.

Pac does throw a lot of counter right hooks, but with Floyd it's hard to figure out when it's coming.

manny couldn't counter clotteys right hand so i think he will have serious problems with floyds and it seem like shanes reach advantage was a bit of a problem to for manny and floyd has longer arms than shane

[The Noose]

if marquez and morales can counter pacman, floyd sure can do it, but faster and with better defend

Id agree, but the major difference is that both Morales and JMM threw combinations when they countered, and attacked aggressively.
Floyd tends to throw single shot counters. And isnt willing to take a shot to land a shot which JMM and morales do all the time. They dont mind exchanging.

I think it may be difficult for Floyd to counter Pac if Pac keeps throwing combinations.

But, if Floyd is at his best (which i believe is now past him), he would out box Pac with movement and getting his range.

[CholoPino]

no one is underrating gayweather... but if he opens up, he will get caught. once he tastes the power, I don't think he'll want to get hit again and he'll run. all defensive-minded boxers will go into a defensive shell or get on their bike once they get hit by pac.

True. And even if he doesn't open up given the speed, insane angles, and volume of punches Pac throws Floyd will get hit like he's never been hit before. Manny will use his swift footwork to get into position and will fire all night. He will take a punch to give 3 or more, and he will not stop like Mosley did in the 2nd after he caught Floyd. Also, Floyd has always troubles with southpaws; just imagine he'll have a nightmare dealing with Pac. And I agree that he'll most likely get on his bike once he tastes Manny's punches: Pac tends to psychologically break down his opponents.

[letsgobrady]

Id agree, but the major difference is that both Morales and JMM threw combinations when they countered, and attacked aggressively.
Floyd tends to throw single shot counters. And isnt willing to take a shot to land a shot which JMM and morales do all the time. They dont mind exchanging.

I think it may be difficult for Floyd to counter Pac if Pac keeps throwing combinations.

But, if Floyd is at his best (which i believe is now past him), he would out box Pac with movement and getting his range.

yea but in the 2nd marquez fight it seemed like marquez never jabed and was still able to win atlest 6 round or more in most peoples eyes just by takin advantage of manny's mistakes which are still there

[CholoPino]

That's not an excuse. That's a reason. Something that Pacman has to deal with and hopefully do not repeat in the next camp.

The issue of over training was actually brought up even before the fight since Pacman's training camp was going along without the usual distractions. If you follow Pacman's fights you know the difference. No excuses. Just a lesson learned.

From the early rounds it was apparent that Pac didn't have his usual quick footwork to bounce in-and-out to land punches. I recall that during training he did mostly hills and less flats running and it affected his leg conditioning. It's a lesson learned for next time.

[hypodermical]

pac has to fight floyd like he did oscar where he was offensive be very cautious of the right jab and counter. floyd is way faster than oscar though, so pac needs to use his head movement like earlier in his career and use his recently developed left hand lead.