Fight Camp 360 on primetime CBS (8pm) did HORRIBLE ratings

[Forza]

Well they need to stop targeting the "casual fan" cuz boxing basically has none of them left. Those people are too busy watching American idol or brock lesnar or pawn stars

[withoutthee666]

pac is only a superstar in the phillipenes and parts of cali

So Pac is a superstar to Filipino people. Makes sense. I would agree.

[Turok2]

Well they need to stop targeting the "casual fan" cuz boxing basically has none of them left. Those people are too busy watching American idol or brock lesnar or pawn stars

i agree with you 100%

[Mayweather41-0]

Well they need to stop targeting the "casual fan" cuz boxing basically has none of them left. Those people are too busy watching American idol or brock lesnar or pawn stars

lol ufc ratings are absolutely no where near American Idol

[MrRolltide91]

Well they need to stop targeting the "casual fan" cuz boxing basically has none of them left. Those people are too busy watching American idol or brock lesnar or pawn stars

lol this is true

[BuckToothed]

Well they need to stop targeting the "casual fan" cuz boxing basically has none of them left. Those people are too busy watching American idol or brock lesnar or pawn stars

UFC 129 sat 55,000 fans in Toronto last saturday night...
$12mm in live gate revenue, PPV# still to be released.

[Saddlebred]

lol ufc ratings are absolutely no where near American Idol

This is true, but the cumulative viewership that MMA gets being featured on multiple channels every night of the week *****s the ratings that Friday Night Fights or Top Rank gets by miles...boxing makes itself inaccessible to the casual fan entirely by its own doing...there is no Dana White residing over boxing, just a bunch of promoters fighting amongst themselves fighting for whatever scraps they can get as they fall from the table.

[ThePrince]

Well they need to stop targeting the "casual fan" cuz boxing basically has none of them left. Those people are too busy watching American idol or brock lesnar or pawn stars

That's absolutely ridiculous. Check this article by Kevin Iole out, it's long but a great read:



He basically lets it be known that CBS wants to bring Boxing back to the network and went to Top Rank to make that happen. Not only that, but casual fans are what fuel the sport- you think the 2 million buys per year Pac pulls in or the recent string of good ratings HBO and Friday Night Fights is coming from primarily B.S. posters and other hardcore fans?

That's why boxing has been 'dying' and is irrelevant compared to when it was on the networks in the 60s-early 90s when it was a staple of American Sports. Now it's a niche thing because it has been relegated solely to HBO, Showtime, etc.

My thinking is that if promoters do more to pull 'casuals' into the sport, then they can become 'hardcore' fans down the line. Same thing happened with MMA, used to be a niche sport that only a relatively small group of people followed, it folded, went bankrupt. Dana White/ZUFFA came along with a new business model that made the sport more accessible and attractive to new audiences, made deals with Spike which has almost 100 million subscribers, and look where they are now from where they were just 10 years ago.

Fact is, Boxing can't survive without casual fans. Streams don't pay the bills.

[Mayweather41-0]

This is true, but the cumulative viewership that MMA gets being featured on multiple channels every night of the week *****s the ratings that Friday Night Fights or Top Rank gets by miles...boxing makes itself inaccessible to the casual fan entirely by its own doing...there is no Dana White residing over boxing, just a bunch of promoters fighting amongst themselves fighting for whatever scraps they can get as they fall from the table.

and there is also no promoter robbing the **** out of his fighters like he is also people make him out to be some genius when all the ufc really is is a dictatorship. The fighters have no say or rights and imagine if Bob Arum had the rights to every boxer. Pacquiao vs. Mosley will smash the numbers 129 did easily.

[KayDub]

Boxing has lost a lot of it's audience to MMA.

Face it, MMA delivers better on the blood lust for the casual fighting sports fan. People seem to think it's more brutal, which in some instances it is, and cling to it over boxing.

We aren't going to get the PPV buys that were once possible. I think boxing will maintain at its current level though.