Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez-Nobuhiro Ishida Explored For The Fall

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martinez DESERVES to take an easy fight unlike pacyow that takes fans money for garbage fights, when was the lastime pac fought somebody even coming off of a win ?? let alone an upsetof the year 1st rnd win?? since never.pac fights no-hopers and losers, what martinez has done in the last 2 years pac hasnt done in his entire hype ppv driven career: and thats fight the best there is , not just "names " on losing streaks and downfalls of careers like pac LOVES to do.

EXACTLY. That's why it pisses me off that I'm hearing that Martinez is ducking fighters when all he did and is tryng to do is secure a big fight with the best fighters. Pac reputation in the picking opponents department is way more suspect than Martinez.

[RSBonos]

The difference is that Martinez has given HBO subscribers great fights, and Berto, who has faught about 10 more times than Martinez, getting paid more money than Martinez, fighting bum after bum, has yet to produce entertaining and compelling fights.

That;s the difference.

I agree on Berto but Martinez fighting world class opponents doesn't justify him taking on a C level fighter. Personally, I think Martinez vs Pirog or any of the MW contenders would be easy work for him so why in the world should he fight Ishida.

If they want to go this route then it should be on ESPN/independent PPV etc. But we all know that Dibella's only skill involves begging for money from HBO. He can't even promote Martinez (who has the total package) against the bigger names.

They are basically looking for a handout from HBO because Martinez had to fight tough guys recently. WEAK

[jrosales13]

It doesn't matter what Dibella and Sergio want, it is the HBO execs who make the final decision. If HBO does not want Pirog on their network they won't have him!!

Dibella and Sergio do not run HBO, they just fight whomever HBO approves. HBO wanted Williams vs Martinez 2. And they got it. HBO wanted Martinez vs Sergei. And they got it. IF HBO doesn't want Pirog boo f'ing hoo. It's not Martinez's fault.

So you're saying HBO would want Dzinziruk but not Pirog?

Yea OK...

HBO wants the best possible match up for there stars. If Martinez-Dzinziruk is the best possible match up HBO wants it. If Martinez-Pirog is the best possible match up HBO would wanted. However, if Martinez doesn't want the fight at all then is not possible to make.

What HBO doesn't want is show case Pirog. They have no problem show casing Martinez.

[LAFIRPO]

So you're saying HBO would want Dzinziruk but not Pirog?

Yea OK...

HBO wants the best possible match up for there stars. If Martinez-Dzinziruk is the best possible match up HBO wants it. If Martinez-Pirog is the best possible match up HBO would wanted. However, if Martinez doesn't want the fight at all then is not possible to make.

What HBO doesn't want is show case Pirog. They have no problem show casing Martinez.

Don't take my word for it, do your research. HBO rejected 3-4 fighters for Matinez. They were adament on Sergio fighting Sergei.

And you think HBO wants the best possible matchup or their stars?? HAHA.

How the hell do you explain Berto fighting 12 straight bums and getting paid close to 2 mill for each bum. Best for their stars??

I guarantee you, that if HBO went to Sergio and Dibella and said, "We'll give you 2 million to fight Pirog", Sergio and Dibella would take it in a heartbeat.

Why?

Because Sergio got payed 1 million to fight Pavlik and Williams.

Use common sense. Why would he not fight Pirog if HBO was offering him good money to fight him?

It makes no sense.

[-Antonio-]

What a horrible fight. I can't believe it's even being considered. HBO better not sign off on this garbage.

[Walt Liquor]

What a horrible fight. I can't believe it's even being considered. HBO better not sign off on this garbage.

it's not and its not gettin signed off on. I can't believe everyone is getting this worked up over a ******ed article. bs needs to stop.

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HBO did want Sergei......

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By Rick Reeno

krikya360.com was advised that HBO has given Sergio Martinez (46-2, 25KOs) no alternatives for his televised return on March 12. The network has advised Martinez to fight unbeaten WBO 154-pound champion Sergei Dzinziruk (37-0, 23KOs). If Martinez is unable to finalize an agreement with Dzinziruk, the WBC middleweight champion will lose his reserved date on the network.

Negotiations have been difficult because Dzinziruk has a contracted minimum with his promoters, Artie Pellulo and Gary Shaw, to get paid at least $750,000. The network, while pushing Martinez to face Dzinziruk, has not kicked in extra money to accelerate the negotiations. Souces with knowledge of the situation advised BoxingScene that HBO laid down at least $2.4 million dollars. Although not confirmed, Dzinziruk's side was requesting at least a package of $1 million dollars. I've heard the two sides, for the most part, have been able to work out most of the issues related to money.

HBO believes Martinez-Dzinziruk is the perfect fight to go head to head with Top Rank's pay-per-view, which takes place on March 12 in Las Vegas, and features Miguel Cotto defending his WBA 154-pound title against Ricardo Mayorga. While Dzinziruk is talented, and a fight with Martinez is intriguing, he is unknown to most American boxing fans. Mayorga, even at this late stage, is still a marketable name and his mouth sells fights.

It's alarming that HBO would take this kind of position with one of their biggest stars. There is already some bad blood between HBO and Top Rank over the network's refusal to pick up a proposed fight between Cotto and undefeated Vanes Martirosyan. Now the tension is building between HBO and Martinez.

Martinez's promoter Lou DiBella refused to break down the situation with HBO but said the negotiations with Dzinziruk's promoters are ongoing.

"I'm pursuing the fight that HBO has insisted I pursue," DiBella told krikya360.com.

NEVER heard them get at Diabella for Pirog.

[LAFIRPO]

So you're saying HBO would want Dzinziruk but not Pirog?

Yea OK...

HBO wants the best possible match up for there stars. If Martinez-Dzinziruk is the best possible match up HBO wants it. If Martinez-Pirog is the best possible match up HBO would wanted. However, if Martinez doesn't want the fight at all then is not possible to make.

What HBO doesn't want is show case Pirog. They have no problem show casing Martinez.

Before you talk nonsense, you should know what you're talking about.

Read this article homeboy.

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Don't take my word for it, do your research. HBO rejected 3-4 fighters for Matinez. They were adament on Sergio fighting Sergei.

And you think HBO wants the best possible matchup or their stars?? HAHA.

How the hell do you explain Berto fighting 12 straight bums and getting paid close to 2 mill for each bum. Best for their stars??

I guarantee you, that if HBO went to Sergio and Dibella and said, "We'll give you 2 million to fight Pirog", Sergio and Dibella would take it in a heartbeat.

Why?

Because Sergio got payed 1 million to fight Pavlik and Williams.

Use common sense. Why would he not fight Pirog if HBO was offering him good money to fight him?

It makes no sense.

I posted it already. Funny how people try to tell you what didn't happen but it is actually a documented fact.

[cleaner147]

jes but Kirkland-Martinez wouldve been a hell of a fight. LOL